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Subject: Re: UKNM: RE: UKNM Digest V1 #220
From: Duncan Clubb
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:51:51 +0100

Steve Mynott wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 16, 1999 at 03:15:24PM +0100, Ian Tester wrote:
> > Non-Flash enabled browsers are *rapidly* becoming the exception - few people
> > (and certainly not 40%) are incapable of downloading flash, although I do
> I don't think its that people are incapable of downloading flash.
> Downloading plugins costs the modem user money and time.
> Many more knowledgable users are reluctant to download plugins and
> the like for fear of causing future problems with their PC/Mac.
> "If ain't broke .. don't fix it"
> There is an arrogance here on the part of the company in assuming that
> people are going to waste time, money and an unstable system in order
> to be able to view that companies web site, when there are literally
> millions of other pages available and a culture similar to TV channel
> hopping with a remote.
> > accept that people at work in companies with very strict IT policies won't
> > have the option of downloading the plug in if they're using an old, and
> > company-specified browser. Yes, a few people won't be able to use our launch
> Probably quite a lot of people during the day are stuck in that
> "Corporate IT hell". A lot of potential hits being lost there.
> > site and we realise that and have calculated for that, but the vast majority
> > will get serious benefit from our Flash-enabled features. And this group
> > will grow as people bin old browsers, and more come online with new
> > computers or new ISPs (or Clifford Chance replace their desktops).
> Why not simply have a non-flash alternative and/or use Java?

Java? Are you serious? If anything is unlikely to work on all platforms, let
alone get through a corporate firewall, it's Java. Most corporate firewalls, by
the way, will even filter out Javascript, so if your site depends on JS for
navigation (very common) it's going to unusable at a HUGE number of desktops. The
most popular site that we run gets most of its hits during weekday lunchtimes, not
evenings or weekends - a lot of UK users get their internet access at work, so it
makes sense to use neutral technology that works everywhere.

> --
> 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott steveattightrope [dot] demon [dot] co [dot] uk http://www.pineal.com/
> the first myth of management is that it exists. the second myth of
> management is that success equals skill.
> -- robert heller

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