Re: FLASH: The model agency thing

[brzys]

I disagree with that Lena,


Hey it's a free country, and you get what you pay for, now don't 'cha!



Tell me we have much betta' things to wring thru our brains . . .



                "LET'S GET CREATIVE PEOPLE!!!"


cYa,


Mary Brzys


-- http://www.brzys.com

merde



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From: "Lena Bj�rklund" <lena [dot] bjorklundmbox304 [dot] swipnet [dot] se>

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To: flashershocker [dot] com

>Subject: Re: FLASH: The model agency thing

>Date: Fri, Aug 20, 1999, 7:22 PM

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> David Gary Studios wrote:

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>> I certainly hope new freelancers learn from this. I vagely remember that so

>> called "offer". No legit RFP sent out to anyone and like most of the

>> internet, shady in nature. You develop a knack when being approached on a

>> freelance basis. The majority of our inquiries are either other developers

>> seeing what we charge or "Joe's" that have absolutely zero budget for

>> anything remotely professional. I could smell a rat when I first read this

>> and if I remember, I sent out a "be-ware" post on this.

>

> Well. I�m not new as a freelancer, but in the IT-business I am - and who are

> not,  more ore less? "Time passes slowly up here in the mountains", (B Dylan

> quote).

>

>>

>>

>> Any client that approaches you with even a fraction of a budget of that

>> magnitude, will almost always likely go through a professional agency to

>> contract the work. They usually will also seek larger firms to handle a

>> project of that caliber and not a small firm or single freelance developer.

>> Posting silly "offers" on a developer's list server shows that whoever your

>> dealing with here has no clue how to sub out freelance work and questions

>> thier credentials and motives.

>>

>> If I can give any advice to artists/developer coming out from under a

>> "corporate" umbrella into freelance from my personal experience, it would be

>> to always get at least 30% down before even turning on your computer or

>> preparing your pallet. This is a "given" in the professional market.

>> Unfortunately the internet has given this "everything should be FREE or

>> cheap on the internet" persona. Professional marketing companies know better

>> and are very aware of how the professional freelance market works. Its

>> usually the one man band schmuck trying to market his porno site that wants

>> it all 'Flashed" out to attract more hits and that has absolutely no budget

>> and expects "cutting edge design" with SOTA technology for next to nothing.

>

> Ieeeyohh! ....is my quite ironical mark for that "corporate umbrella" . Too

> often - at inbusiness sessions - I�ve heard my boss presenting me with the

> words "aint that girl cute",  (and I�m 40 this year) leaving me wordless to

the

> young kids who know how to sell themselves, but not how to manage a project,

> with all the different kind of labour it costs....All in all, my impression is

> that the IT-business is a little "pubertal" (of course, I can speak only of

> swedish circumstances - frankly)...Therefore I found this offer a decent

> opportunity to display my work and not my features...

>

> I guess not so many on this list has encountered that problem...Still some

kind

> of expressive sympathy would be appreciated....

>

> When everything comes around - wouldn�t Hotline be a more proper arena for

this

> guys "offerings"...Me I would like him be abolished from this list....

>

>

> Lena Bj�rklund

> http://home.swipnet.se/lena_b

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