RE: FLASH: OT: IE 5.5 Beta-- Man its fast.

[Branden Hall]

Agreed, however, squabbling, to a certain extent is needed.  The browsers on

the Mac are horrendously behind the times, and having to design web pages

for a platform that has such out of date (Netscape) and just plain  broken

(IE) browsers is a royal pain in my butt.  Perhaps Microsoft or Netscape or

even a 3rd party will hear our distress soon. I sure hope so!  I know that

many of the graphics people here at work are abandoning their Macs due to

the fact that most of our clients are on PCs and don't give damn about what

their website/web based application looks like on Macs.  I personally would

use a Mac, however I really can not stand the user interface... the only way

I can see myself going Mac is if I can justify using *nix on one...

otherwise I would be in a one-mouse-button hell.


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Subject: Re: FLASH: OT: IE 5.5 Beta-- Man its fast.



Many of you  may be disturbed by my assumption, but I thought this board was

a place to discuss Flash, not squabble about who in the playground has a

better computer, Mac or PC. Their is more than enough to chat about with

Flash. Save it for another board...

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Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 3:15 PM

Subject: RE: FLASH: OT: IE 5.5 Beta-- Man its fast.



>One question, if I may...?

>

>If Mac is laggin behind a puffin and a raspin because the PC market is now

>stealing it's only lifeblood left (graphics), then why is 78% of the

>internet still designed on Mac platforms (1999 statistic)?  And to further

>back Wayne, why is our Military, starting with the Army,  switching it's

>entire base of PC servers to Mac for better security? Is that notorious

>'They said' responisble here?

>

>I don't even use Mac (Intergraph 400 MHz dual processor) but, in using them

>occasionally and based on my cross platform experience,  I believe they've

>been WAY ahead of the game when it comes to making hardware/software work

>with streamlined precision..

>

>-----Original Message-----

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From: Wayne Townsend [waynetabsolute [dot] net (mailto:waynetabsolute [dot] net)]

>Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 12:46 PM

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To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

>Subject: Re: FLASH: OT: IE 5.5 Beta-- Man its fast.

>

>

>Hi John,

>

>>

>>It's just that I have been slowly making my way from the

>>Graphic Design side of the house to the

>>Backend Design side of the house and there are

>>several more varieties of tools for backend programming

>>for the PC than there is for the Mac.

>

>

>Hold on there, John...

>

>Actually, the Mac has a server cgi authoring tool that blows away

>anything in the PC area by far.  It's called Flamethrower, and is

>based on Supercard and the Supertalk language, which has been around

>since '88 and has a *cult* following.  Lingo itself is *ahem* is very

>similar to the Supertalk language, which was on the market years

>earlier.  John Gay himself, the father of Flash, came from the

>development group that developed Supertalk (Silicon Beach).  The good

>news is that the language is english-based in its syntax, and

>therefore easy to learn by novices.  Far easier and faster to develop

>with than Perl or C. With this tool, you don't have to know much

>about how servers work in order to write server apps.

>

>So, bottom line is, anyone wanting to develop comprehensive custom

>server apps, should consider this incredibly capable and easy to use

>program.  I'll never write another CGI in perl or C again, anymore

>than I'll ever build another website in html.  Flamethrower is the

>Flash of the server world, IMHO.

>

>As far as servers themselves go, Apple currently has a clear

>advantage. The G4 macs are simply faster than Sun and NT servers.

>There are ISPs that have both, and will confirm that for anyone who

>doubts it.  For example, here's a quote from another commercial

>software developer who has both...  (In reference to a large

>computing project (SETI))

>>Glad to see these Mac's are cooking the Dual PII 400's running NT I got

>helping Team SC. The best they can do is 11 hrs and change and that's

>with 800 MHz of pure Intel power!

>

( from Steve MacLean, MadMan Software stevemadmansoft [dot] com (mailto:stevemadmansoft [dot] com) )

>

>Also, FWIW, quoting New Media Magazine, "The Mac outperformed both

>Sun and NT boxes... the mac served over three times more pages than

>the Sun, and over seven times the NT".

>

>I can confirm this in the real world too, since I've worked in

>environments with all three for years.  I don't care what name is on

>the box, I just want reliability, performance, and ease of

>administration.  What shocked me most though was how good the little

>iMacs are as servers.

>

>Macs also run UNIX Apache server software, which is the most popular

>server software in the world by far.  That's what I use.  Apache is

>on all variety of server platforms, but the mac version has a nice

>front-end interface that makes it painless to administrate - no unix

>to learn.

>

>You can find out about Flamethrower at http://www.SolutionsEtcetera.com/

>And UXIX Apache for the Mac (WebTen) at http://www.tenon.com

>

>Authoring environments are one thing, and we all have our favorite

>platform, but web developers should stay platform independent in

>their thinking when it comes to back-end, and just go for what

>performs the best for their audience.

>

>ATB,

>

>/wayne

>

>Wayne Townsend

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