Re: FLASH: 3D Wow! Pulse? Nah!

[Michael Penne]

The marketing guy I emailed for more info. He's

quite chatty, if you email Pulse for more info.

likely you will get an earful;-), quoted the

price. (I sent you his name in private email) He

was willing to come down a bit since I was

researcing it for the educational license (btw

its 4k _per_ post of the content, not 4k per seat

of the authoring environment;-). 


However, we re-purpose our content to many

different places, and I certainly don't want to

try and manage all those licenses, since (in my

job as a courseware developer) I am both author

and publisher.


Here, we are working with Shout, Nemo, and

exploring Hypercosm, which all seem to have more

genial licensing set-ups.


--- Wayne Townsend <

waynetabsolute [dot] net

> wrote:

> 

> >Let me get this straight: I create a work

> using

> >their 'free' tools and then get to pay them

> ~4k$

> _each_ time I post it to the web?

> 

> Michael,

> 

> Where did you get this information

> specifically?  Do you have a name?

> 

> There is no mention of anything like this on

> their site, which is odd 

> to say the least.


Yeah. Its an easy hook but the set is pretty

hard;-).

> 

> Regarding the website license fee you describe,

> *if* indeed there is 

> one, it looks like they're the only game in

> town.


See above. The very best *look* + interactivity

is Nemo, IMHO, I'd add to the above that Cortona

is doing some very nice things with VRML, albeit

w/o the depth of interactivity in Hypercosm (see 

http://www.waycoolgames.com) and Nemo.


  And if the client 

> likes it, wants it, and is willing to pay the

> freight, why would a 

> developer care?


Because its _my_ content to post when, where, and

how I see fit. Also, y'know, license fees can

change...

> 

> >I don't think they are going to attract the

> best artists,

> 


> 

> I think you'd have to agree though, that the

> developers have been 

> very hot for 3D like this for a long time,

> judging by posts on the 

> list.


110%! Interactive low bandwitdth real time 3D wil

take this thing we've push to ~10 with flash far

past 11;-)...

> 

> >I mean how many people would develop flash if

> Macromedia charged 

> >them for posting the .swf?

> 

> The ones who do projects for clients who see

> the value in .swf, and 

> could afford it.


But likely not the huge number of enthusiastic

developers that have pushed Flash (and the

installed plug-in base) to the 80% range.

> 

> 

> 

> Hmmm.  Pulse is pre-IPO, so a buyout of the

> technology by a bigger 

> fish is a distinct possibility. Anything can

> happen, and revenue 

> models can change, but without a doubt, these

> Pulse guys have raised 

> the bar.  It's good news for developers anyway

> you look at it.  This 

> is far bigger news than Adobe's supposed

> "flash-killer", IMO.


Agree 110% again. However, MACR has a poor

history with 3D (from one who's first modeling

was in Extreme3d;-)...

> 

> /w

> 

> Wayne Townsend

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>

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