RE: FLASH: Jobs

[Ray Frenden]

Thanks for the kind words, Isabel. I do not feel, in the least, that I have

less of

an opportunity to make this work than anyone else; I just don't think I've

been

at the right place at the right time, yet.


-----Original Message-----

From:

ownerchinwag [dot] com

 [

ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On

 Behalf Of Isabel

Smith Art & Design Studio

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:05 PM

To:

flasherchinwag [dot] com

Subject: Re: FLASH: Jobs



To Ray:


Its a terrible thing that in this day and age, that experience and know-how

do not count with all too many people.


I have long since put away ''my fear'' of trusting knowledge from someone

younger than me.... in the world of web, some of my best guru's have been

between the ages of 15 and 17!


My suggestion for you is start your own website, go to some small business

courses [taking courses on bookkeeping and record keeping for sure] and get

out there and sell yourself.


Don't tell yourself you can't.


Start out the conversation with, "I would like to come by to show you my

portfolio to give you an overview of my capabilities and hope that you

wouldn't mind giving me an overview of your company."  Most people love to

show you what they do and they love to see what you do. They don't like to

buy when they're not ready and they don't like to get pushed. But if you

stay really laid back and remember that its all an adventure in learning,

there's no doubt you will come away from each experience with some valuable

information.


Have faith in yourself.


There is a lot of diverse work out there --- definitely not enough skilled

people. As many years as I have in the business [over 22] they mean very

little now in this very exciting age of the internet, and even at my ancient

age of 54 [yikes NOT that old] I am relearning everything.


I started my own business and a business person I am not. Even so, I am

making a living and learning while I'm doing it. This flasher dialogue site

is one of the greatest ways to learn.


Start looking at the world differently. Come out of the box. Build a teepee.

And by all means, do not let it get you down. The way I got out of worry was

accepting Jesus... but thats another story!


Good luck,

Isabel    http://www.isabelsmith.com


----- Original Message -----

From: "Ray Frenden" <

rfrendencbs-corp [dot] com

>

To: <

flasherchinwag [dot] com

>

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: FLASH: Jobs



> Along the same lines, I am trying to start out as a freelancer except I

have

> one further detriment; I am 19 and therefore do not have a degree. I do

have

> examples and am experienced but I can't seem to find a job that will

settle

> for less than a degree.

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

From: ownerchinwag [dot] com [ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Erik

> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:18 PM

>

To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

> Subject: FLASH: Jobs

>

>

> Hey guys! I'm working with Flash 5 and have upgraded from 4. I have

> experience in building complete sites (a couple of which were for a

> university) but am really take by what I can do with Flash. My question

is,

> how the heck can I get a start-off job in the field? I have an excellent

> resume with examples bu I don't seem to get anywhere. I want to freelance

> and feel I can do it. But I need the chance to prove it. I'm currently

> finishing up my BA and only have one course, so time's not an issue.

> Suggestions?

> erik



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