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| Subject: | Re: FLASH: flash 5 problem (OT) |
| From: | Wayne Pennell \( Web Master \) |
| Date: | Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:05:49 +0100 |
That's funny ... Bill Gates became one of the richest men in the world by
distributing his beta software out so beta testers .. i.e.. "anyone" could
download it.
Now on a side note:
Isn't it conceivable if a competitor really wanted their code he/she could
get someone from their company or outside temp to get into the beta? hmmmm
Give it a rest.
The prime ordeal here is Macromedia should allow anyone to download the beta
and give user input instead of downloading a patch each Monday I come to
work. As far as NDA is concerned just don't reproduce what you see without
consent.. which "I thought software reverse Engineering was illegal
anyways".
My two Pennies.
Wayne Pennell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rebecca Lovelace" <RLovelace
havasint [dot] com>To: <flasher
chinwag [dot] com>Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 5:10 PM
Subject: RE: FLASH: flash 5 problem (OT)
> Oh, give it a rest! I'm tired of listening to people whining about
> Macromedia cracking down on people who violate their NDA. Why do you
think
> the NDA is there? It is potentially very harmful to Macromedia if info
> about their betas is released prematurely to the public. A) Someone could
> get the wrong idea about the software (it's not final till it's
final...the
> beta could be buggy or missing features that make it into the actual
> product) and B) A competitor could find out information about key features
> and have time to release them before Macromedia releases their software.
> Now that Adobe is out there, option B is a real threat.
>
> Macromedia is really cool about their Beta program. It is a very good
> opportunity if you are a hardcore user of their software. They allow
their
> Beta testers real input into the product, and it also allows Beta testers
> more time to learn cool new features. (Disclaimer: I am not on the Flash
5
> Beta program, so I don't know if there actually are cool new features, but
> since this is Macromedia I am assuming there are!) Do you think that as a
> security measure Macromedia should stop allowing so many people to be Beta
> testers? That would punish all the rest of us because of a few stupid
> people.
>
> Would you really want someone looking at your software before it was
> finished? If the answer is YES, you probably aren't a serious developer.
>
>
> Rebecca
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Goudy [JamesG
webmail [dot] leighfisher [dot] com (mailto:JamesGwebmail [dot] leighfisher [dot] com)]> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 4:48 PM
> To: flasher
chinwag [dot] com> Subject: Re: FLASH: flash 5 problem (OT)
>
>
> I'm aware that Dowdell works for Macromedia. What annoys me is that I've
> worked with dozens of programmers, designers, and tech support people over
> the years and none has ever felt the need to take on the additional role
of
> narc officer. Not once. Flash is a great program, but let's keep things in
> perspective. If Macromedia has difficulty keeping betas under wraps, that
> sounds like an internal security issue and not one to threaten a
discussion
> list with. Dowdell has helped numerous people with tech issues (and
usually
> without the recent condescending tone). I only ask that he keeps his
> commentary constructive and not so heavy-handed.
>
> 10-year PAYING Macromedia customer,
>
> James Goudy
> San Francisco, CA
>
>
>
> >>> winders
mlerf [dot] org 07/17/00 01:06PM >>>> James,
> I think John Dowdell works for Macromedia. It kinda seems like maybe
> people who are fooling around with a boot of Flash 5 ought to not make
that
> point public. Especially to employees of Macromedia. They tend to get
> pissed when one of their major products is being distributed freely before
> official release. John is chill as far as I know, I guess this irks him
> when people stick this in his face. I mean I'm sure this is far worse
than
> pirated copies of Flash 4 in their eyes.
>
> Enough about Flash 5 already, unless somebody wants to start a pool on a
> release date; )
>
> I say Friday September 8th (53 days),
> anybody else
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Goudy <JamesG
webmail [dot] leighfisher [dot] com>> To: <flasher
chinwag [dot] com>> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: FLASH: flash 5 problem
>
>
> | Dude you SERIOUSLY need to chill.
> |
> |
> | >>> jdowdell
macromedia [dot] com 07/17/00 11:37AM >>>> | At 7:37 PM 7/15/0, Snoopy Dog Dog wrote:
> | >seems that flash 5 goes to continue having the
> |
> | You're implying that you may have one of the pre-release builds of a
> | Macromedia Flash application. The only people who might have such are
> under
> | strict legal contracts to not distribute or discuss these.
> |
> | I've forwarded your post to the Flash team, Macromedia Legal, and to
> | piracy
macromedia [dot] com. Cases of misappropriated property are taken very> | seriously.
> |
> | Recap: First word on actual release versions of new software always
> arrives
> | first on the Macromedia website. If you'd care to help create and test
> | future versions of any of our offerings, then thanks, info is at:
> | http://www.macromedia.com/support/programs/beta.html
> |
> | jd
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US
> | Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/
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> |
> |
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