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Subject: Re: FLASH: <OT> Napster and Master opinions among the Flasher Group
From: mymetameme
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:52:11 +0100

Re: New Business Models for the distribution of Afro-Centric Music...
As a Flash Developer with a love for Afro-centric music ...a form of music
that is highly under represented on Radio and TV... it is even more
important that I tell my clients, who lately have been approaching me from
the Jamaican Reggae Community and a few from the African-American Hip-Hop
community..that there is a way to distribute their music...and it is on the
web. Further, it is important for my clients to realize that they can charge
for it...if they choose...One misconception I come up against is the fear
that they have to give the music away for "free" and hence, not get
paid......the other fear is that not enough of their fans are online and
that no one will find the music...It is my job to sell my client on the
benefits of the web and the future of accessibility and the power of
networking and marketing...

These communites have, of course been mis represented and under represented
by the BIG Labels since the beginning of the OLD EXPLOITIVE economic
system....one based, of course, in Slavery...so...there is even more reason
for this community to embrace the new formats as they tend to be excluded
from the traditional methods of distribution anyhow..... Chuck D, of Public
Enemy has long been a supporter of MP3. He has been saying, for a long time,
"Fight the Powers that Be"....
The new connected networked economy creates new business models and we all
have to adapt or fade away...that is beyond anyones control....I was trained
as a painter and then studied to become a Classical Animator and as a woman
was never given a break in either field, was always locked out of the white
male bastians of "towers of babel", mostly because of the type of content I
choose to deal with... I personally think that the web and these new
business models it is the greatest thing since sliced brown bread....
Regards,
Susan Sam
Chief Imagination Officer
www.mymetameme.com






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> FLASH: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0ASP_101_-_Flash_and_ASP_Integration?=
> FLASH: site check
> FLASH: Disable button.
> [none]
> RE: FLASH: using film footage
> RE: FLASH: a question for John Dowdell..
> Re: FLASH: OT Ken(ny)'s Lost the Plot
> re:FLASH:Saving Variables to a database
> RE: FLASH: flash screensavers?
> FLASH: New one
> RE: FLASH: flash screensavers?
> Re: FLASH: [OT] Napster and Macster opinions among the Flasher Group
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:47:56 +0200
> From: "Paul Koch" <paulatinterpaul [dot] nl>
> Subject: FLASH: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0ASP_101_-_Flash_and_ASP_Integration?=
>
> Anybody seen this?
>
> http://www.asp101.com/articles/flash/index.asp
>
> Paul Koch
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:02:44 +0200
> From: "Paul Koch" <paulatinterpaul [dot] nl>
> Subject: FLASH: site check
>
> Could someone check - the remake - of www.dewildezeeuw.nl
>
> I made it in Ultradev with Coldfusion. with several flash element. Before
it was one big flash movie of 900kB. Portfolio is completely updatable from
the web, incl. file upload.
>
> Only the big white border bothers me a lot if you have a bigger screen.
Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Koch
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:11:37 +0100
> From: "Braes, Bruno" <bruno [dot] braesateds [dot] com>
> Subject: FLASH: Disable button.
>
> I am doing a series of loaded movies layered over one another and don't
know
> how to deactivate the buttons from the movies below. Any advice.....
>
> Thanx.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:32:14 -0400
> From: Jamie Long <jamie [dot] longatcygnusca [dot] com>
> Subject: [none]
>
> does anyone know if you can import text into flash from a text file and
have
> href's in the text file that will be links in the flash movie??? jamie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:30:16 -0400
> From: Jamie Long <jamie [dot] longatcygnusca [dot] com>
> Subject: RE: FLASH: using film footage
>
> not really, you can bring it in frame by frame and use trace bitmap, it's
a
> weird effect but it works for some designs, jamie
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Melissa Jacobson [mjacobsonattheimagebank [dot] com (mailto:mjacobsonattheimagebank [dot] com)]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 11:20 AM
> To: 'flasheratchinwag [dot] com'
> Subject: FLASH: using film footage
>
>
> Is there any way to bring film or video images into Flash?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Melissa Jacobson
> gettyone
> 212.539.8961
>
> GETTY IMAGES, INC.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:41:21 -0400
> From: "Brack, Jeremy" <Jeremy [dot] Brackatimgusa [dot] com>
> Subject: RE: FLASH: a question for John Dowdell..
>
> I fully recommend the HOT seminar.. it was not only useful, but it was
also
> fun. I already knew a lot about Flash before I went to the class, so I
was
> a little worried that the class would be "beginner level" or just basic
> stuff. But I was wrong. I knew a lot about the basics, and that actually
> helped me learn some of the advanced tricks they demonstrated in the
class.
> If you get stuck on something, they had about 10 assistants ready to help
>
> you. The examples in my HOT seminar included building an entire
e-commerce
> website with draggable products that the customer can place into a virtual
> shopping bag that sounds like a cash register(or any other sound you want)
> when you drop a product in the bag. It was pretty cool. They showed us
how
> to list the contents of the virtual shopping bag, total up the cost, add
tax
> and process a credit card. They didnt show us how to link the Flash
aquired
> data with a real server, so that kind of sucked.. that would have helped
me
> build Flash e-commerce sites with the programming department at my
company.
> Well I guess I could research it if I had time.
> During day 2 of the HOT seminar we learned how to use dynamic content with

> Flash and Generator.. so it was really interesting.
>
> The one main drawback the the HOT seminar is that they did not allow us to
> take home the Flash/generator examples we created ourselves in class.
> Several of the advanced people in the class (including me) created some
> really cool stuff during the 2 day class, and unfortunately they had
nothing
> for us to save it on. No floppies, no zip drives, no CD-R's, no FTP
server,
> no e-mail, no nothing. They gave us a a CD for Generator and Flash with
> examples that did not relate to the class. And they e-mailed us the
generic
> in class samples that the instructors created. Well I still havent gotten
> the Generator sample, but I assume some people in the class were able to
get
> it. On the evaluation form at the end of the seminar, I suggested to
> include zip disks or CD-R's for future seminars.. Even a CD-R drive on the
> instructors computer only would have been helpful... then for what? 30
cents
> a CD-R we could each have our examples saved? Well maybe next Seminar I
> guess.
>
> So if you get a chance to attend a Flash HOT seminar, I think you should
> definitely go! But maybe bring along a portable zip drive!
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Angeline Geronimo [ageronimoatiscgnetwork [dot] com (mailto:ageronimoatiscgnetwork [dot] com)]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 11:18 AM
> To: 'flasheratchinwag [dot] com'
> Subject: RE: FLASH: a question for John Dowdell..
>
>
> Hey so how was the Hands On Training Seminar? Would you recommend it?
>
>
> > I attended the Macromedia "Hands On Training" (H.O.T.)
> > Seminar back in March
> > 2000, in New York City.
> > It was a 2 day class, with Tanya Lux speaking about Flash on
> > the first day
> > and Steve (forgot his last name) spoke about Generator the
> > next day. At the
> > end of the 2 day seminar, both Tanya and Steve told the class
> > to e-mail them
> > to get the in class samples, since they didn not have any
> > means to let us
> > take our samples home with us..
> > I e-mailed Tanya and a few days later she sent me the generic
> > sample she
> > made. I also e-mailed Steve, and I still have not yet gotten
> > even 1 reply.
> > I think in total I e-mailed Steve 3 times over the past 4
> > months and still I
> > have not gotten a reply. Is there any way that you could
> > e-mail me the
> > generic Generator samples that were used for the H.O.T.
> > seminar? My company
> > recently purchased Generator 2 Developer Edition and it would
> > be extremely
> > helpful if I could have those samples to work with again.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeremy Brack
> > Web Designer
> > Interactive Marketing Group
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jdowdellatmacromedia [dot] com [jdowdellatmacromedia [dot] com (mailto:jdowdellatmacromedia [dot] com)]
> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 3:57 PM
> > To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
> > Subject: Re: FLASH: illustrator shapes
> >
> >
> > At 10:30 AM 7/14/0, Anthony Faust wrote:
> > >if I want to make a polygon type shape and wanted to animate
> > it, what's the
> > >best way to make sure that the file size would be the smallest?
> > >should i make it in illustrator and import it into flash or
> > should i make
> > >the shape in flash itself?
> >
> > Should be pretty much the same... regular polygons would be
> > described in
> > the same number of curves regardless.
> >
> > Related notes:
> >
> > -- If shape-morphing, then making your target shapes in
> > whichever app, but
> > use the shape-tweening in Flash instead of blending in Illustrator and
> > importing each separate shape, to avoid a potential filesize hit.
> >
> > -- For complicated shapes drawn elsewhere, please do examine
> > the shape in
> > Macromedia Flash to see if it can be simplified, broken
> > apart, have its
> > curves optimized, more. (Consider a squiggly green shape atop a blue
> > square... in the final SWF this might be more concisely
> > expressed as two
> > shapes, rather than the normal knockout approach!)
> >
> > -- If coming from Adobe's Illustrator, you may wish to
> > compare filesizes
> > from various paths... we can transfer via .AI6 format, or the free
> > FlashWriter Export Plugin, and ILL9 advertises some type of
> > SWF export (I
> > haven't personally evaluated ILL9's SWF, but have read mixed
> > reports...
> > please test in your own work).
> >
> > -- If coming from another tool, you can often get better results by
> > importing just the curves, and then applying gradients or
> > other features in
> > Flash itself.
> >
> > jd
> >
> > John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US
> > Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/
> > Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your
> > email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are
> > available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:47:04 -0400
> From: Kenny Sherwood <uniquemacatearthlink [dot] net>
> Subject: Re: FLASH: OT Ken(ny)'s Lost the Plot
>
> At 07.47 +0100 2000.06.14, peter hagerty wrote (to the Flasher list):
>
> >But why Ken did you offer to encourage and help the
"actionscriptdilemma",
> >an initiative which many people supported and subscribed to, and then
> >abandonded this project in favour of rhetoric and abuse?
>
> OK Peter,
>
> I just found this email from you, and frankly at first felt somewhat
> inclined toward bitchin' atcha *privately*, but I see that you are
> still a member of the actionscripters list, so instead bitchin' (I
> hate doin' that anyway :-) ), I offer you 2 things:
>
> (1) Check out my most recent post to the ASers list (URL below):
> especially consider the stuff about Kundalini; if you have no
> understanding of Kundalini "crisis" (not the best word IMO but it's
> the one that seems to be most commonly used), and, if you're actually
> interested, then please either search up such terms via Google or
> HotBot or something, or check out the book that I recommended. BTW
> the title of the *first* edition of that book was *Kundalini:
> Psychosis or Transcendence?*.
>
> (2) In case yer *really* curious, my present Kundalini-rising
> manifestations (a much better word than "symptoms" 'cuz it's *not* a
> "disease") are:
>
> (a) elevated internal body heat
> (b) head feels pressurized
> (c) elevated sensitivity to light
> (d) elevated sensitivity to sound
> (e) quite elevated emotional sensitivity
>
> (E.g., lately I cry briefly several times a day, *not* due to sadness
> but due to intense appreciation of the extreme beauty of life.
> Certain TV shows are great for this too -- especially, for me, "Kung
> Fu: The Legend Continues" (TNT, afternoons M-F).)
>
> (f) little blisters spontaneously show up on my body (mostly my hands)
> (g) rapid reorientation from "ego"-focused to "intuitive"-focused
> (h) occasional extreme back pain
>
> I could go on a bit but maybe by now you have some of the gist of the
> current deal with me.
>
> Thanks Peter for this opportunity to clear up at least some of this
> with you and perhaps with others who have had similar concerns.
>
> Sincerely and with best wishes,
>
> Kenny Sherwood
>
> p.s. Peter and relevant others reading this, will you *please*
> respond to the latest poll that I put up on the actionscripters site
> http://www.egroups.com/group/actionscripters ? This poll is intended
> to be my means by which to determine my future orientation toward the
> group. Non-respondees will (obviously) have NO input toward the
> choices that I will make. Thank you! Even "lurkers" have an option
> designed specifically for them. I strongly desire this input from
> *everyone* who cares to continue with this group. TIA. I'll give it a
> few more days, then I'll make those decisions and go from there.
>
> - --
>
> http://kensherwood.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 07:20:56 -0400
> From: John Stanley <JohnSatCENTROMINE [dot] com>
> Subject: re:FLASH:Saving Variables to a database
>
> Here is a template i am using to write variables passed to a cf-template
> from a flash movie. It is also attached. (In the attached version the
query
> is commented out because I do not want it writing to the database at this
> time.)
>
> This template writes to a database as well as emails the requester and the
> internal contact here. It does not require the use of URL, or Form
Prefixes
>
> to work.
>
> Hope this helps. Any questions, please let me know.
>
> <<enterform.cfm>>
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>Untitled</title>
> </head>
>
> <body>
> <cfparam name="title" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="name" default="">
> <cfparam name="email" default="">
> <cfparam name="address" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="city" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="state" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="zip" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="phone" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="fax" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="organization" default="">
> <cfparam name="selected" default="No Information given">
>
>
> <cfset error='false'>
>
> <cfif isDefined("Name") and #len(name)# GT 0>
>
> <cfelse>
> <cfset error='true'>
> </cfif>
>
> <cfif isDefined("Organization") and #len(Organization)# GT 0>
>
> <cfelse>
> <cfset error='true'>
> </cfif>
>
> <cfif isDefined("Email") and #len(EMail)# GT 0>
>
> <cfelse>
> <cfset error='true'>
> </cfif>
>
> <cfif #error# eq 'true'>
>
>
> <script>
> location = 'request_error.cfm?'
> </script>
>
> <cfelse>
>
> <cfquery name="write_data" datasource="homepage">
> Insert into Contacts (FirstName3, Title1, Company, Email1, Phone, Fax,
> Address, City, State, Zip, MarketSegment)
> Values
>
('#Name#','#Title#','#organization#','#email#','#phone#','#fax#','#address#'
> ,'#city#',
> '#state#','#zip#','#selected#')
> </cfquery>
>
> <cfmail to="AdminatCentromine [dot] com" from="#form.email#" subject="Show of the
> year -- Automated mail" >
> The following information was added to the contact database via show of
the
> year.com
>
> Name :#Name#
> Title: #Title#
> Organization: #organization#
> E-Mail: #email#
> Phone: #phone#
> Fax: #fax#
> Address: #address#
> City: #city#
> State: #state#
> Zip: #zip#
> Market Segment: #selected#
> </cfmail>
>
> <cfmail to="#email#" from="System" subject="Show of the year -- Automated
> mail" >
> The following information was sent per your request:
>
> Name :#Name#
> Title: #Title#
> Organization: #organization#
> E-Mail: #email#
> Phone: #phone#
> Fax: #fax#
> Address: #address#
> City: #city#
> State: #state#
> Zip: #zip#
> Market Segment: #selected#
>
> Thanks for submitting your request.
>
>
> </cfmail>
>
> <br>
> <div align="center">
> <img src="images/logo.jpg" width="497" height="89" border="0" alt="">
>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <font face="arial"><h2>Transmitting Request</h2></font>
> </div>
> <script>
> function send() {
> document.location='test.cfm';
> }
> window.setTimeout(send,3000);
> </script>
>
> </cfif>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
>
>
> John Stanley
> Programmer
> Internet Visions Group
> 734.352.2136
> Centromine, Inc
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:30:26 -0400
> From: Joe Shoults <joesatfathominteractive [dot] com>
> Subject: RE: FLASH: flash screensavers?
>
> go to http://www.fathominteractive.com/fathomtraining/flstud.htm and click
> the link for "Flashmaster". It is inexpensive and very easy to use!
>
> Joe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gandersonathildebrand [dot] co [dot] uk [gandersonathildebrand [dot] co [dot] uk (mailto:gandersonathildebrand [dot] co [dot] uk)]
> >
> > Hi list
> >
> > How would I go about creating a flash screensaver once I have
> > completed my
> > animation? Preferably mac & pc.
> >
> > Is the best way to import the swf into director, or is there
> > another utility
> > that converts swf to screensavers?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:57:13 +0100
> From: "Gerred Gilronan" <Gerred [dot] GilronanatUnilever [dot] com>
> Subject: FLASH: New one
>
> Hi everyone on the list.
>
> I have just subscribed and after receiving over 250 postings in the 24 hrs
that
> I have been active all I can say is you lot know your stuff.
> I have just finished a course on Flash4 and Dreamweaver and thought I knew
a
> bit about it. It has become apparent that I have only scratched the tip of
the
> iceberg.
> I am watching with interest all the stuff you lot are posting. I am sure I
will
> pick up a tip or two.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerred
> London UK
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stanley [SMTP:JohnSatCENTROMINE [dot] com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 12:21 PM
> To: 'flasheratchinwag [dot] com'
> Subject: re:FLASH:Saving Variables to a database
>
> Here is a template i am using to write variables passed to a cf-template
> from a flash movie. It is also attached. (In the attached version the
query
> is commented out because I do not want it writing to the database at this
> time.)
>
> This template writes to a database as well as emails the requester and the
> internal contact here. It does not require the use of URL, or Form
Prefixes
>
> to work.
>
> Hope this helps. Any questions, please let me know.
>
> <<enterform.cfm>>
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>Untitled</title>
> </head>
>
> <body>
> <cfparam name="title" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="name" default="">
> <cfparam name="email" default="">
> <cfparam name="address" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="city" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="state" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="zip" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="phone" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="fax" default="No Information given">
> <cfparam name="organization" default="">
> <cfparam name="selected" default="No Information given">
>
>
> <cfset error='false'>
>
> <cfif isDefined("Name") and #len(name)# GT 0>
>
> <cfelse>
> <cfset error='true'>
> </cfif>
>
> <cfif isDefined("Organization") and #len(Organization)# GT 0>
>
> <cfelse>
> <cfset error='true'>
> </cfif>
>
> <cfif isDefined("Email") and #len(EMail)# GT 0>
>
> <cfelse>
> <cfset error='true'>
> </cfif>
>
> <cfif #error# eq 'true'>
>
>
> <script>
> location = 'request_error.cfm?'
> </script>
>
> <cfelse>
>
> <cfquery name="write_data" datasource="homepage">
> Insert into Contacts (FirstName3, Title1, Company, Email1, Phone, Fax,
> Address, City, State, Zip, MarketSegment)
> Values
>
('#Name#','#Title#','#organization#','#email#','#phone#','#fax#','#address#'
> ,'#city#',
> '#state#','#zip#','#selected#')
> </cfquery>
>
> <cfmail to="AdminatCentromine [dot] com" from="#form.email#" subject="Show of the
> year -- Automated mail" >
> The following information was added to the contact database via show of
the
> year.com
>
> Name :#Name#
> Title: #Title#
> Organization: #organization#
> E-Mail: #email#
> Phone: #phone#
> Fax: #fax#
> Address: #address#
> City: #city#
> State: #state#
> Zip: #zip#
> Market Segment: #selected#
> </cfmail>
>
> <cfmail to="#email#" from="System" subject="Show of the year -- Automated
> mail" >
> The following information was sent per your request:
>
> Name :#Name#
> Title: #Title#
> Organization: #organization#
> E-Mail: #email#
> Phone: #phone#
> Fax: #fax#
> Address: #address#
> City: #city#
> State: #state#
> Zip: #zip#
> Market Segment: #selected#
>
> Thanks for submitting your request.
>
>
> </cfmail>
>
> <br>
> <div align="center">
> <img src="images/logo.jpg" width="497" height="89" border="0" alt="">
>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <font face="arial"><h2>Transmitting Request</h2></font>
> </div>
> <script>
> function send() {
> document.location='test.cfm';
> }
> window.setTimeout(send,3000);
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> </cfif>
> </body>
> </html>
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> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:44:07 -0400
> From: "JGL" <infoatdesignthenet [dot] com>
> Subject: RE: FLASH: flash screensavers?
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Couldn't find a program that makes screensavers there . . .
>
> The zipped file has only a .swf and a .scr file in it and no screensaver
> maker program . .
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> go to http://www.fathominteractive.com/fathomtraining/flstud.htm and click
> the link for "Flashmaster". It is inexpensive and very easy to use!
>
> Joe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gandersonathildebrand [dot] co [dot] uk [gandersonathildebrand [dot] co [dot] uk (mailto:gandersonathildebrand [dot] co [dot] uk)]
> >
> > Hi list
> >
> > How would I go about creating a flash screensaver once I have
> > completed my
> > animation? Preferably mac & pc.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:39:00 -0400
> From: Jon Williams <jonatshovemedia [dot] com>
> Subject: Re: FLASH: [OT] Napster and Macster opinions among the Flasher
Group
>
> I support *completely* repealing (or at least *seriously*
> overhauling) US copyright law.
>
> Information wants to be free. See the "cathedral and the bazaar." etc.etc.
> Let's say your favorite band comes out with a new album. They
> sell it in the stores for $16. Your *band* makes ... what, between
> 25 cents and $1.25 depending on their contract? Now, you burn
> an MP3 of that album and distribute it (vicariously) to a few
> hundred thousand people on the internet. How many of those people
> "just wanted to check them out and see if they liked them"?
> How many of those are going to show up during the next tour that
> wouldn't have w/o the freebie listen?
>
> The debate has nothing to do with the artists. The artists don't make
> jack off album sales. The record companies do. The record companies
> no longer control the means of production and distribution, and now
> they're scared. Rightly so. They've been ripping us off to the tune of
> $10-$12 a disc and expect us not to turn the tables? ha. ha.
>
> Now, argument to the counter-argument: if music is free, and NOBODY
> buys the album, how are the artists expected to survive? Fair question.
> The answer is that we have to fundamentally change the relationship
> between artists and fans. Got a favorite band? Get their music for free
> and send them $10. That's 10 times (or more) what they get from an
> album sale. Pissed off that Sonoc Yoth can't come to your city on the
> next tour? did you send 'em any cash? no? guess you don't care enough...
> "They broke up?! What do you mean they broke up?!" You want
> capitalism? I've got your capitalism right here...
>
> get the idea? so is the backstreet'sync-of-the-month going to like this
> idea? no. does the public really care? (*giggle*snort*) um...no.
>
> Looks to me like the only people left complaining are the ones who
> aren't getting rich anymore. Sorry boys. We don't need you. Get a job.
>
> Now, one *might* say this translates to software. MacRaMadia comes
> out with a spankin' new software product ... and they distribute it for
> free. Like it? I suggest you send them a few hundred bucks...if you
> want it to succeed...if you want a version II...if you want support...
>
> Will this be a difficult transition? Of course. Do I think it's possible?
> Of course. Will the MAN stand for it? Of course not. Does he have a
choice?
> Not really. At the end of the day, everyone knows that it's now impossible
> to enforce copyright law. We might as well shift the whole paradigm
> while it's still in flux.
>
> my $0.02
> - -jon
>
>
>
> Wayne Townsend wrote:
>
> > Hey group!
> >
> > If you even care to join in,
> >
> > What are your opinions about the Napster, Macster trend, and raging
> > debate in all the major newspapers, radio & TV?
> >
> > Is it [OT] sure/ not so sure,
> > but it's not OT really when you consider that Flashers are in the
> > forefront on web design and there are many debates that go on here
> > regarding artist copyright issues and distribution.
> >
> > We all know the Record Industry opposing view, but
> >
> > One carefully considered opinion in favor of Napster/ Macster, is this:
> >
> > "It goes beyond the music industry. Just as the web gave many
> > mainstream people a *reason* to even own a computer, and has pushed
> > computer sales (and the developer audience) *way* beyond
> > expectations from a few years ago, ie. many people today buy a
> > computer just to get onto the web, Napster does the same thing in
> > regard to people getting high-bandwidth connections. Music is a
> > great, great carrot for people to get high-speed (DSL) connections.
> > Mainstream high-bandwidth connection will make a huge difference in
> > what media providers like Flashers can do, and presumably benefit
> > everybody. All this goes *way* beyond the music industry."
> >
> > Sooo, is music the trigger for high speed bandwidth adoption by the
> > masses which benefits all, including both providers and consumers?
> > Or is this all just a huge ripoff of artists?
> >
> > I can assure you that both Music Industry & Web Industry guys are
> > listening to the opinions from this list, the most important list on
> > the web. I posted this because I was asked to.
> >
> > So now's your chance as developers and talent to make your opinion
heard.
> >
> > Do it, these notes will be submitted to congress.
> >
> > Pls, no BS, just real opinions, by real artists.
> >
> > /w
> >
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> > Sponsored by Macromedia, Adobe Systems, Fusion, Inc, AtomFilms,
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