Re: FLASH: livemotion?

[Branden Hall]

ACK! No!!!  I was hungover as hell and suffering from a lost bet (no, my

hair is not naturally red in any way, shape or form!) Gee thanks Ken, I'll

have to remember this one! ;-)  As for the other person who questioned the

need for the bandwidth profiler...  if you have clients who need sites

designed for 28.8s, you *HAVE* to have a bandwidth profiler, period. You can

only look forward so much, when dealing with real world e-business sites you

can't leave very many people behind.


-= Branden J. Hall

-= Multimedia Developer/Instructor

-= Fig Leaf Software




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Subject: Re: FLASH: livemotion?



>Eh... not quite...


Oh Branden you're so *smug*. :-)


>First of all as best I can tell, Livemotions SWFs are always larger than

>Flash's,


I've not gotten to checking for myself, so "thanks". Does this apply

even to the simplest of movies, say just a two-framer with one layer?


In other words, I'm curious to know whether you've gotten into

researching *where* the "fluff" is, and where it's not.


Also, as a beta, they may not have made ultimate compression a

highest priority.


>secondly, half the time you do an effect in LM it becomes a bitmap,

>thus yanking your filesize into the stratosphere...


This is a given. I prefer to always be conscious of the byte cost of

things that I do in Flash. Wouldn't change that philosophy with

LiveMotion.


When bandwidth opens up this concern will be moot -- if not

"totally", at least very much so. I believe that Adobe is clearly

targeting THAT era, primarily, and NOT the "pre-historic" 56k one in

which we currently find ourselves. :-) They are IN BIG with Apple so

they may be looking to QuickTime or even SVG plugin taking over OVER

Flash when VECTORS aren't necessary anymore. (Same progression has

happened with video games, home video games (though Nintendo Virtual

Boy ROCKS), etc.) "Vector consciousness" will not be necessary *for

the Web* in a year or two (though of course other vector needs will

arise (Palms, smart cell phones, personal virtual goggles, etc.)).


>Also it doesn't ever

>tell you the actual names of your MCs so that you could later script them

>with Javascript, it does not seem to support MP3 compression of music,  and

>there is no real way to optimize your movies like Flash's bandwidth

>profiler.  I am told that some sort of optimization scheme will be in the

>final product,


Makes sense. And, to not take care of those things you've mentioned

would all be BAD omissions.


>but I am not holding my breath.


Oh Branden you're so *smug*. :-)


Thanks for sharing your famous Brain output about this!


Ken Sherwood


p.s. Little-known (perhaps as-it-should-be) fact: with just a bit of

creative Web searching, one may discover (perhaps "much to one's

dismay") that *somewhere* on the Web exists a semi-clad photo of

Branden. Your weekend Flash-related adventure, if you wish. Caveat

emptor!


--


"Adobe, who has deeper pockets than Macromedia, has announced a Flash

competitor.  Will Macromedia survive?"


-- hwg-theory list contributor, 2000.02.12


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