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Subject: RE: FLASH: Dilemma-Down Payment for work
From: JGL
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:03:01 +0100

>it seems like as if I wouldn't see a dime for my efforts until the project
was completed.

More like 30 days after . . .

50% down - 25% on design approval - balance at completion. That is a
STANDARD.

Unless you are a bank and can afford to carry a company . . .

You know it's tough to turn down assignments when you need the money,
exposure etc. . . but -

I have trapped myself before into settling for their (the client) terms and
it always seems to go sideways in some way


It creates a problem for you - the developer by not allowing you to fully
stay focused at the task at hand. Worrying about if you'll get paid for your
efforts etc. They have seen your work - they should know you are capable and
they should commit to standard forms of payment. They might be bluffing!

OTOH - a high profile project means great exposure for you - they are
probably aware of this.

I'd ask them, in so many words, why?

Someone on this list has a sig that quotes something like :

"if you settle for less than what you are worth . . . you'll never get what
you are worth . . ."

Something like that - but it is true!

M2W

GOOD LUCK!

JGL
dEsignthenet

-----Original Message-----
From: owneratchinwag [dot] com [owneratchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:owneratchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Brian
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 6:03 AM
To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
Subject: FLASH: Dilemma


I have a bit of a dilemma that I would like to get some advice about.

I have the chance to produce a presentation in Flash for a client who's
looking to get it done by April 24th. Basically it doesn't sound like a
particularly over-the-top hard job per se, but I'm still a bit of a newbie
when it comes to Flash - in particular the programming aspects of it. But I
figured if nothing else I have a friend who knows Flash real well and this
list to act as resources should I run into trouble.

The main problem, however, is that I asked for what I considered a typical
freelancing payment deal - a third down up front, another third at some
milesone point, and the rest upon completion of the project. This was
rejected by the client, and from the best information I have it seems like
as if I wouldn't see a dime for my efforts until the project was completed.
This is a company who has a service that ranks third in the world (it
involves software that bundles e-mail, voice-mail and faxes into one
integrated accessible area, namely Microsoft Outlook), and I've visited
their offices, so they're for real as far as I can tell, and they have their
own system set in place to ensure fairness to both sides of a deal such as
the one I'm debating entering into.

But I have a wife and three kids (and a cat) and I've been laid off since
December and freelancing is a hard business and quite frankly, I don't think
I need to settle for not getting something up front so I can feed these
people and pay some bills.

What opinion does anyone have here?

-Brian Matthews
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer



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