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Subject: Re: [flasher] Re: you HAVE to check this article out :- FLASH : 99% bad, by Jakob Nielsen
From: brian bueza
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:32:23 -0000

As someone who has gone to six years of art and design school
and has six years experience, seeing the gamut of good bad and ugly,
Reading this guy's assessment on what Flash does to web design,
this person is coming from an obviously conditioned state of mind
when it comes to what the web should be. I notice this kind of attitude with
older clients. I would think that someone who "designs", regardless of what
they see, are willing to embrace radical or even what would subjectively in his
case be thought of as bad design, form follows function, and matters as such.
Most people laughed when Columbus went to the edge of the world, just as some
folks laugh at the idea that there's life on other planets. The minute you're
not open to brutally fresh and unexplored concepts, even if they're "bad",
to wild design, unorthodox approaches to design, or ideas for that matter, like
homeboy who wrote this lame article, you lose touch, you're no longer able to
adapt, and you go extinct. Then the young new kids do things you should of
done. Basically, this is one person who surely couldn't be representative of a
huge demographic. So, who cares? These are the kind of people who don't
innovate. Traditions are for family, not the web. I would
of never of learned Flash if I had this attitude, and I probably wouldn't have
the slightest bit of interest in what he thinks constitues a great site, given
his qualifiers, I wouldn't be able to learn anything.
<!-- dude, WHATEVER!??!!! //-->
~B

--- Anthony Smith <anthonyatvisualpurple [dot] com [dot] au> wrote:
> on 22/3/01 4:43 AM, Lee Parry at Lee [dot] Parryatrealworld [dot] co [dot] uk wrote:
>
> > I think it's important to make a distinction here between what is an
> > 'experimental' piece of work, and what in a 'necessary' piece of work.
> >
> > In the case of the latter, I think what Nielsen has to say is relevant, and
> > although not revolutionary, should not be written off simply because one's
> > own 'designer' sensibility has been offended.
> >
> > They sell computers as if they were toasters nowadays, and the trouble is,
> > it still seems that a lot of people/users are only JUST able to operate a
> > toaster in the first place.
> >
> > No one said Nielson was right about everything.
>
> totally.. my main niggle is that his view is so narrow.. and sweepingly
> general
>
> the thing is bad design is bad design.. flash, html or print it doesnt
> matter.. but is it html 99% bad????? nope..
>
> 8_b!t_b@y
>
>
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