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| Subject: | RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD |
| From: | Kathy Reddin |
| Date: | Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:27:42 GMT |
Take this discussion OFF-LINE.
It's not helping any of us learn ANYTHING about Flash.
Thank you.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner
chinwag [dot] com [ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf OfKristopher Wainwright
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 12:47 PM
To: flasher
chinwag [dot] comSubject: RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
I was thinking .... make it something we all
understand ....
<fuck>
jakob nielsen
</fuck>
Kris Sends .....
--- Janel Clement <janel
kismia [dot] com> wrote:> Based on the info in this Nielsen page,
> (http://www.useit.com/about/nographics.html)
> the new T-shirt design should be
>
> fuck -> jakob nielsen
>
> rather than
> fuck: jakob nielsen
>
> because "The arrows seem to be slightly easier
> to understand as an indication of moving deeper
> and deeper..." we wouldn't want anyone to be
> confused and think that the colons indicate
> alternative choices on the same level. ;)
>
> janel
> (not a jakob-basher, just another non-conforming
> artist-type with >3k pages. sorry jake.)
>
> There must be a balance between creativity and
> usability.
> (my own dos pesos)
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner
chinwag [dot] com> [owner
chinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Jason> > Cartwright
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:14 PM
> > To: 'flasher
chinwag [dot] com'> > Subject: RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
> >
> >
> > Checkout this guys essay on how he bit the bullet
> by putting an
> > arrow on his
> > pages - what a loser
> > http://www.useit.com/about/nographics.html
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dale Lawrence [th
m-nus [dot] com (mailto:thm-nus [dot] com)]> > > Sent: 30 October 2000 16:49
> > > To: flasher
chinwag [dot] com> > > Subject: RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's guys like Nielsen that said the
> Television
> > > was just a passing fad. All of his opinions
> are
> > > short sighted, and he only really speaks to
> > > corporate giants. To him, art, inspiration,
> and
> > > emotion are unnecessary 'baggage'. (read:
> bandwidth)
> > >
> > > The biggest argument I've ever seen in my
> workplace
> > > was between the geeks (our affectionate term
> for
> > > programmers) and the design staff. The geeks
> kept
> > > quoting Nielsen as the basis of all their
> arguments.
> > > They had a few good points, but Nielsen is
> just way
> > > beyond. I mean come on. There is more to the
> web
> > > than text only sites with only blue links that
> turn
> > > purple when you click on them...
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > > At 11:26 AM 10/30/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Pardon my ignorance... But who is Jacob
> Nielsen? Just a
> > > web-reviewer?
> > > >It appears he is not very well liked...
> > > >
> > > >-Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Shawn Mitchell
> [smitchell
webdesigngroup [dot] com (mailto:smitchellwebdesigngroup [dot] com)]> > > >Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:46 AM
> > > >To: flasher
chinwag [dot] com> > > >Subject: RE: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >jacob shirts
> > > >
> > > >http://www.extralucky.com/
> > > >
> > > >i don't know how many are left, and it took
> forever to get
> > > mine, so once you
> > > >order keep reminding them
> > > >
> > > >S
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: owner
chinwag [dot] com> [owner
chinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of David> > > >Wallach
> > > >Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:28 AM
> > > >To: flasher
chinwag [dot] com> > > >Subject: Re: FLASH: FLASH 99% BAD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Sat at his table for lunch last year... I left
> without eating.
> > > >
> > > >A few weeks ago I saw a site that had 'FUCK
> JACOB NIELSEN'
> > > t-shirts for
> > > >sale, does anybody know the url? I am ready to
> invest...
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >
> > > >David
> > > >
> > > >> Personally, I can't stand this guy views...
> > > >>
> > > >> but I thought everyone might get a charge
> from a
> > > >> little blood-boiling e-mail to get ya started
> this
> > > >> Monday morning...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> FLASH 99% BAD
> > > >> Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox for October 29 is
> now online at:
> > > >> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html
> > > >>
> > > >> Although multimedia has its role on the Web,
> current Flash
> > > >> technology tends to discourage usability for
> three reasons:
> > > >> it makes bad design more likely, it breaks
> with the Web's
> > > >> fundamental interaction style, and it
> consumes resources that
> > > >> would be better spent enhancing a site's core
> value.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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November 27-29, 2000, LONDON, National Film Theatre
Produced by United Digital Artists and lynda.com
-Sponsored by Macromedia, Adobe Systems and Apple Computer
-http://www.flashforward2000.com or UK tel. +44 (0870) 751 1526
Register before November 10 and save �200
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