RE: FLASH: Oval City !

[eriq]

Actually, I'm a seasoned identity designer with clients like RuPaul,

Madonna, 3Com, Disney, and Netobjects, and I happened to LOVE it. What

branch of identity or user interface design are you coming from Mr. Sooy? 


>I'm sure this site wasn't targeting design professionals, so he should take

>my criticism as criticism.  Just my own unsolicited, caustic design opinion.


mm hmmm. I'm sure it wasn't. I rest my case.


eriq


At 07:34 AM 9/24/98 , Sooy, Matt wrote:

>We've all heard that everything we say or do has been said or done before.

>In fact, when it comes to pushing originality I believe that good design

>should always precede originality, but a good design takes into account

>(especially in something like a website) an identity.  If the design fails

>to serve the identity, then however well designed the information is, its

>interest isn't served.

>

>Different people have different ideas on what software like Flash has to

>offer.  I personally believe that if you use it as a standalone tool, you're

>selling it short. Spinning ovals are indicative of the limitations of Flash

>(and not vector graphics.)  I have no idea what other constraints he was

>working under, but these ovals earmark Flash the same way overused gradients

>earmark illustrator, and poorly used drop shadows and semi-transparent text

>earmarks photoshop.  

>

>I'm sure this site wasn't targeting design professionals, so he should take

>my criticism as criticism.  Just my own unsolicited, caustic design opinion.

>

>

>Matt Sooy

>

>

>> -----Original Message-----

>

> From: Webmaster [SMTP:condordirect [dot] ca]

>> Sent:	Wednesday, September 23, 1998 5:02 PM

>

> To: flashershocker [dot] com

>> Subject:	Re: FLASH: Oval City !

>> 

>> What I personally Would like to know is, what Mr.Sooy? <Is that his name?>

>> Web

>> site looks like, I wonder if its sooo "Original"

>> and if it is great if its not then that's fine, cause that's how the world

>> works, you take someone else's idea and enhance that, you won't find

>> another

>> Web site like Deep Blue, you might find one that's similar but not the

>> exact

>> same. Just think of how many great web site's used other peoples ideas?,

>> hell

>> just think of every new movie out, usually the script writer had some

>> influence

>> from an older movie.

>> 

>> Or Maybe He never knew there was Alot of Oval's on the net, but like the

>> man

>> said he likes ovals! so What just because other people have them you can't

>> use

>> them? It seems that your the only one against this, and if you don't like

>> it

>> well then don't go to it. But like he said this list is suppose to be

>> helpful,

>> and from that email you wrote there is not one word of helpfulness that I

>> can

>> see, except telling us that your against ovals? and do we care what you

>> like or

>> dislike? no, he asked for help....Think before you write.

>> 

>> 

>> ~ R ~

>> 

>> 

>

> Gavin_Hollandjba [dot] co [dot] uk wrote:

>> 

>> > Listen Mate,

>> >            I posted my mail to the Flash list for a bit of technical,

>> > constructive advice and not for someone to go slagging my work off. I

>> was

>> > under the impression that the list was a place where people could

>> exchange

>> > ideas and help each other with various Flash issues, obviously I was

>> wrong.

>> > I know my site is not groundbreaking and is probably not the most

>> original

>> > piece of flash on the NET but does this have to stop me posting to the

>> > list, sorry but I was unaware that to use this list you already had to

>> be

>> > some kind of Flash Guru. Sorry for causing such offense Mr Sooy, but

>> feel

>> > free to close your browser and please take your snotty attitude with

>> you.

>> > Besides, I LOVE OVALS !!!!!!!!

>> > Cheers !

>> > For all lovers of Ovals go to :

>> > http://www.btinternet.com/~gavin.holland/deepblue/

>> >

>> > Subject: RE: FLASH: New Site !

>> > I hate to be the only one who thinks this,

>> > but if i see another spinning oval I'm going to close my browser.  Don't

>> > get

>> > me wrong, I love my copy of FLASH, but it seems like 3/4 of the FLASH

>> > content on the web is virtually indistinguishable from any other.

>> >

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