uk-netmarketing Archive (2011-2015)

The problem here is that not all developers are equal. Some can be 20 times
faster than others simply because they have better knowledge or tools to do
the same job.

My viewpoint on Agile is that it appeared at the same time as Test Driven
Development to offset the additional time TDD consumed. It works if you can
split delivery into separate releases but how many projects actually work
like that.

I'm also starting to query the joy of TDD as many people seem very capable
of creating the tests they expect to pass and miss all the ones regarding
Joe Hacker trying to break the site for fun.

It may be that I'm getting more cynical in my old age. Those of you who
know me from days gone by will probably think that wasn't possible but I
can assure you it is.

Regards,

Ben Thompson

On 30 November 2011 17:28, John Braithwaite <john at ergodigital.com> wrote:

> Hah! Did you just use the phrase 'paradigm shift' without a grinning a
> little at the cleverness of it all.
>
> From what I have seen and experienced, I have not yet encountered any
> businesses (i.e. clients) who have seen the full benefits (the 30-40% you
> have quoted so openly in your email). So either:
> 1. It doesn't really work but is a nice idea and, but more of a market
> positioning than actual improvement, or
> 2. Those that use it keep the additional savings to themselves, or
> 3. I have missed out on all those actual 'real world' case studies of
> clients who have seen this sort of benefit
>
> I have, however, been in many meetings with developers who claim that
> their process / go faster stripes will make my life so much easier and
> then, in practice, it doesn't.
>
> Still, I always admire a new spin... to get the best out of it, you need
> to get yourself some 'chaordic agents' to employ too.
>
>
> On 30 Nov 2011, at 12:37, Angus Phillipson wrote:
>
> Hah!    John, Did you really just dismiss the most important paradigm
> shift in systems development process as a go-faster stripe!   I love it.
>
>
> Agile is indeed easy to say,  and no doubt the credentials of the Ecademy
> SEO experts/coaches will soon include ‘agile coach’.
>
>
> I accept it is easy to get wrong,  and when inexperienced teams get it
> wrong it goes very (very) wrong,  as you are removing the traditional
> project management constraints.   Which makes it risky in the hands of
> chancers.
>
>
> However, after training, experience and with the right systems,
> methodology and client engagement it makes a phenomenal difference to the
> quality,  cost  and inherent risk of systems development.
>
>
> 30-40% successful scope change *during* development is not uncommon.   And
> that is 30-40% of ‘stage 2’ you don’t have left after the first
> implementation.  That is a very handsome saving in priority requirements
> over redundant functionality indeed.
>
>
> And if you also drop in methodology like pair programming from XP and test
> driven methodology then you have something rather lovely from a development
> process perspective.
>
>
> Much better systems, delivered faster and at lower cost.
>
>
> What’s not to like?
>
>
> angus
>
>
>
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