uk-netmarketing Archive (2011-2015)

And, in the meantime they couldn't possibly have the time to spend about 1 hour of a developers' time improving this 'rush job' which has only added to the confusion and made them seem out of touch??? 


On 25 May 2012, at 00:34, Peter Cunningham wrote:

> The ICO said that their own implementation was terrible they only did this as they were forced to do something a year ago as certain people get a kick out of reporting the ICO for breaching the Data Protection Act. They said that had they had the benefit of the last year of consultation during the grace period then they would have taken a different approach. They did not advocate using this approach, but they don't give prescriptive advice and it is up to you to decide what you need to do in the light of what you find from your cookie audit.
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> The above was from 2 conferences a month ago where the ICO spoke on this.
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On May 22, 2012, at 9:49 PM, "Steve Masters" <steve at mediamasters.co.uk> wrote:
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>> The FT.com example is probably the most likely approach most websites will take, BUT it fails miserably on compliance because the pop-up only appears if you access the home page. If you access FT.com through another page (as most people will do from Google or from a link) the pop up doesn’t appear, so it isn’t informing all its users and giving them the chance to opt out.
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>> The ICO website implementation is, IMO, crap. It does nothing to help users. First, you get that bar across the top of the page. The site does not serve any cookies (I believe) until you tick yes on that box. However, if you click through for more information, they take you to a page showing you a table of all the cookies they serve. It does not really explain what all these cookies do, each one links to a third party site where there is more detailed information (three links to Microsoft, Google and Workcast privacy pages – where there is no cookie block, it must be said).
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>>  If you disagree with one of these cookies but agree to the rest, tough. You can only say yes to all of them or no to all of them. How crap is that?
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>> Furthermore, it’s easy for ICO and other Govt websites to say you can just turn off cookies and do an audit of your website, but they are not hosting widgets from Facebook, Twitter, Digg, Zinga or ads from Google and networks or affiliate links or all manner of other things that will trigger a cookie to your users. You cannot turn them all off.
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>> The whole law is badly thought through, the instructions for implementation are ridiculous and the execution on the very website that’s meant to set an example is, in my opinion, not doing anything to give users more control or understanding.
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>> Steve Masters
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>> From: uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com [mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com] On Behalf Of Dan Williamson
>> Sent: 22 May 2012 16:43
>> To: uk-netmarketing
>> Subject: Re: [uk-netmarketing] European Cookie Law - Big Debate - we need a solution for all
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>> Has anyone visited FT.com today? Their cookie law approach is to use a nice pop-up. Quite a bold move. Take a look…
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>> From: uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com [mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com] On Behalf Of Ifraz Mughal
>> Sent: 22 May 2012 14:28
>> To: uk-netmarketing
>> Subject: Re: [uk-netmarketing] European Cookie Law - Big Debate - we need a solution for all
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>> Looks like ICO  won't issue fines for not complying 
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>> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/enterprise/374734/ico-no-fines-for-breaking-cookie-rules
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>> Thanks
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>> Ifraz Mughal, @ifraz
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