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[uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

[uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

Miko Coffey miko.coffey at gmail.com
Wed Nov 21 23:21:11 GMT 2012


Just wanted to echo the sentiments of my fellow list-ers: long live UKNM
and the valuable info we all glean from it! Definitely one of my most
useful lists of all time. Always the place I know I can turn when I need
another opinion or some insight into areas I'm not familiar with.

Keep it up, Mr Toodle Pip!

On 21 November 2012 21:59, Pete Bresser <pete at electronic-bean.co.uk> wrote:

> Yep; I'm still here, still lurking (and learning) and although I'm not as
> involved with the digital area as I once was, I still value the list.
>
> More power to your elbow Sam - and any other parts that need it.
>
> Regards
>
> Pete Bresser
> LinkedIn Profile: www.linkedin.com/in/petebresser
>
>
>
>
> On 21 November 2012 17:42, <jclarke at ic24.net> wrote:
>
>>  Leave this list? Not 'till hell freezes over thanks. It's where us
>> oldtimers get to still share, perhaps not as much as we used to, but that's
>> because we've all got to cover so much more in the ever expanding digital
>> universe.
>>
>> Funny enough another learned list in the US was going to go dark and that
>> started up a whole bunch of threads when those who lurked for years
>> realised they'd lose such a great resource.
>>
>> I see NMA.co.uk is changing to The Digitals after being tied up by
>> eConsultancy, it looks like plenty more churn in the digital industry is to
>> come too from what I hear.
>>
>> Happy to be a Chinwagger, it's now been 12 years i'm sure, so looking
>> forward to being an unruly digital teenager next year. Keep it up Sam and
>> Co, you do a great job with what might be the oldest email group list in
>> town.
>>
>> So what's the next topic... Duoscreening? Image recognition ads? Mobile?
>> The creeping data collection of the big 3 - Apple, Facebook, Google? The
>> lack of talent and education? Plenty more I'm sure...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jon Clarke
>>
>> Head of Digital
>>
>> www.spaceandtime.eu.com - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jondclarke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 21 2012, Sam Michel wrote:
>>
>> Afternoon all...
>>
>> Apologies, this shouldn't have gone through to the list. I've unsubscribed
>> Frank from the list. In case anyone else wants to hop off, there's
>> instructions at the bottom of every email. Or drop me a line if you run
>> into any problems.
>>
>>
>> Toodle Pip
>>
>> Sam
>>
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>>
>>
>> On 14 November 2012 08:32, frank wrote:
>>
>> > please unsubscribe me! i have unsubscribed a while back and yesterday i
>> > started getting these emails again!!
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Frank
>> >
>> >
>> > On 13 Nov 2012, at 12:56, Miko Coffey wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Rod,
>> >
>> > First and foremost, HTML tables are a nightmare for accessibility. And
>> > what's good for accessibility is usually good for SEO as well, since
>> > crawlers behave in many ways like text-based browser tools.
>> >
>> > A good article covering the reasons why:
>> >
>> http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2009/04/08/from-table-hell-to-div-hell/
>> >
>> > Tables are great for tabular content, it's just that they were
>> bastardised
>> > and used in a way they were never meant for by designers (like me) way
>> back
>> > in the day before Google existed. Ah the Netscape years, how simple life
>> > was back then...
>> >
>> > Enjoy the above article - think it does a better job of explaining than
>> a
>> > nostalgic old web geek does ;-)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Miko
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12 November 2012 14:02, Rod Harris wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all. Happy Mondays. Can someone tell me if it’s true that it's
>> better
>> >> for SEO not to use html tables?****
>> >>
>> >> In fact. Why are tables in HTML code frowned upon? I’ve not seen good
>> >> support for this prejudice. They don’t seem to be problematic in mobile
>> >> browsers. The usual answer is that content needs to be separated from
>> >> layout. But why is using a div or a span good separation of content
>> from
>> >> layout and a table not? Good layout with only divs requires a lot of
>> nested
>> >> divs. So why Is a table less maintainable?. It’s unlikely that a new
>> >> version of a web site will only need a new CSS file. In fact I think
>> >> less people will understand what is going on someone else’s CSS rather
>> than
>> >> in their simple table layout. I’d be interested in good reasons for
>> the use
>> >> if divs + CSS instead of tables.****
>> >>
>> >> ** **
>> >>
>> >> Cheers****
>> >>
>> >> Rodders.****
>> >>
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>> > Miko Coffey, BFA FRSA
>> >
>> > Independent Web Consultant
>> > http://www.usingmyhead.com
>> > email: miko at usingmyhead.com
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>> >
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>> > Chinwag Jobs is the leading specialist recruitment website for digital
>> > roles in the UK. Used by major companies such as BBC, Electronic
>> > Arts, Kingston University as well as the majority of recruitment
>> > agencies who place staff in the sector.
>> >
>> > Take a look through our listings or register to advertise your
>> > own vacancies today.
>> >
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>>
>> Chinwag Jobs is the leading specialist recruitment website for digital
>> roles in the UK. Used by major companies such as BBC, Electronic
>> Arts, Kingston University as well as the majority of recruitment
>> agencies who place staff in the sector.
>>
>> Take a look through our listings or register to advertise your
>> own vacancies today.
>>
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>
>
> ~~ Chinwag Jobs: Find your perfect new job or next team member ~~
>
> Chinwag Jobs is the leading specialist recruitment website for digital
> roles in the UK. Used by major companies such as BBC, Electronic
> Arts, Kingston University as well as the majority of recruitment
> agencies who place staff in the sector.
>
> Take a look through our listings or register to advertise your
> own vacancies today.
>
> >> CHINWAG JOBS: http://jobs.chinwag.com
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