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>> Would be interested to know what other channels people are using though



Hi Chris.



For this type of chat,  no single channel successfully.



But there is an awful lot of noise……!



Interestingly we are being commissioned to do a lot of ‘news-stream’ style
interfaces within specialist topic sites (premium B2B primarily) – pulling
editorial, third party feeds, comment, social and user account based
community into semantically organised channels within one destination site
 (the interesting bit for us being the algorithms and content analysis)
making the diverse content sources more digestible for the users and
‘ownable’ & controllable by the site / product owners,  who are performing
the content creation, curation, editorial and moderation role.



Perhaps a sign of the times…?


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*From:* uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com [mailto:
uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Kempt
*Sent:* 26 November 2012 14:29
*To:* john at nemisys.uk.com; uk-netmarketing
*Subject:* Re: [uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!



Agreed, for me I enjoy this list because it’s a drip-feed of 90%
interesting discussion as opposed to deluge of 90% bollocks :o). I also
appreciate the “pruning” of self-promotion that Sam and the team do (much
as I’ve fallen foul of it over the years!)



Would be interested to know what other channels people are using though?



Cheers



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*Subject:* Re: [uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!



Hi Benn



For me, it’s not the frequency so much as the quality of response when you
need it. So for a really really tiny time commitment we have each other on
call.



I suspect going to Facebook (or Linkedin) would up the activity level, up
the time commitment we need to make to feel we are contributing usefully
(and therefore that we are earning our keep), and all with a corresponding
decrease in quality from the increased spam our higher (social) profile
would afford.



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*On Behalf Of *Benn Neoco
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*Subject:* Re: [uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!



It's all very nice saying you support the list but it seems to be much more
emotional than rational.

This list has been pretty much dead for some time.



I've had a great time on here and respect the collective input from all
over the years. Obviously kudos to Sam for making it happen but if no one
really uses the list then what difference does it make if it is here?



I had pretty much forgotten about UKNM until that first post (in ages) a
few weeks ago.



If you all really love it so much then why not step up the discussions? Not
for the sake of it, or that renders the list pointless too.



I'm just saying I remember a time when this list was buzzing and it would
be nice to see it back in swing again. Would it not be better if it was a
Facebook page? That would also increase the group size and reach over time
as member engagement would expose the group to new members.









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On 22 Nov 2012, at 09:20, John Braithwaite <john at ergodigital.com> wrote:



Me too... although this list (sadly) seems to be less used. However all the
postings are great... seems that most have a wealth of knowledge in
different areas... and are willing to share their honest opinions.



Let's keep it up!





On 21 Nov 2012, at 21:59, Pete Bresser <pete at electronic-bean.co.uk> wrote:



Yep; I'm still here, still lurking (and learning) and although I'm not as
involved with the digital area as I once was, I still value the list.



More power to your elbow Sam - and any other parts that need it.


Regards

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On 21 November 2012 17:42, <jclarke at ic24.net> wrote:

Leave this list? Not 'till hell freezes over thanks. It's where us
oldtimers get to still share, perhaps not as much as we used to, but that's
because we've all got to cover so much more in the ever expanding digital
universe.

Funny enough another learned list in the US was going to go dark and that
started up a whole bunch of threads when those who lurked for years
realised they'd lose such a great resource.

I see NMA.co.uk <http://nma.co.uk/> is changing to The Digitals after being
tied up by eConsultancy, it looks like plenty more churn in the digital
industry is to come too from what I hear.

Happy to be a Chinwagger, it's now been 12 years i'm sure, so looking
forward to being an unruly digital teenager next year. Keep it up Sam and
Co, you do a great job with what might be the oldest email group list in
town.

So what's the next topic... Duoscreening? Image recognition ads? Mobile?
The creeping data collection of the big 3 - Apple, Facebook, Google? The
lack of talent and education? Plenty more I'm sure...

Cheers

Jon Clarke

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On Nov 21 2012, Sam Michel wrote:

Afternoon all...

Apologies, this shouldn't have gone through to the list. I've unsubscribed
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On 14 November 2012 08:32, frank wrote:

> please unsubscribe me! i have unsubscribed a while back and yesterday i
> started getting these emails again!!
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
>
> On 13 Nov 2012, at 12:56, Miko Coffey wrote:
>
> Hi Rod,
>
> First and foremost, HTML tables are a nightmare for accessibility. And
> what's good for accessibility is usually good for SEO as well, since
> crawlers behave in many ways like text-based browser tools.
>
> A good article covering the reasons why:
> http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2009/04/08/from-table-hell-to-div-hell/
>
> Tables are great for tabular content, it's just that they were bastardised
> and used in a way they were never meant for by designers (like me) way
back
> in the day before Google existed. Ah the Netscape years, how simple life
> was back then...
>
> Enjoy the above article - think it does a better job of explaining than a
> nostalgic old web geek does ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Miko
>
>
> On 12 November 2012 14:02, Rod Harris wrote:
>
>> Hi all. Happy Mondays. Can someone tell me if it’s true that it's better
>> for SEO not to use html tables?****
>>
>> In fact. Why are tables in HTML code frowned upon? I’ve not seen good
>> support for this prejudice. They don’t seem to be problematic in mobile
>> browsers. The usual answer is that content needs to be separated from
>> layout. But why is using a div or a span good separation of content from
>> layout and a table not? Good layout with only divs requires a lot of
nested
>> divs. So why Is a table less maintainable?. It’s unlikely that a new
>> version of a web site will only need a new CSS file. In fact I think
>> less people will understand what is going on someone else’s CSS rather
than
>> in their simple table layout. I’d be interested in good reasons for the
use
>> if divs + CSS instead of tables.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Cheers****
>>
>> Rodders.****
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