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Subject: UKNM: Cost of bringing in visitors/less is more
From: nick berry
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:35:00 GMT

Martin,

I couldn't agree more with your comments on banner advertising - it can be
highly cost effective when it comes to customer acquisition. The key is
flexibility and buying the right sort of campaign. In our network we have
two sorts of campaign; campaigns targeted at small niche sites at CPMs up
to �20, and larger 'megadeals' (forgive the cheese) on larger special
interest sites (with 2+m impressions) a month that work out at around �3
CPM. Both are effective, but work differently for different advertisers.
People should shop around until they get the CPMs and audience they want.

However, creative need not be 'a matter of luck' as you suggest. The key to
excellent creative is testing. How else do you know what works until you
have shown it to people ? We know this because we have had an excellent
response to our facility that allows people to buy campaigns with multiple
banners from as little as �5. They get to test different creatives until
they find one that they are happy with (even if they then place campaigns
elsewhere).

I'm sure Flycast are Ok, but the problem with large ad networks is that you
have to spend more up front when, as you say, often the less you spend the
better !

yours

nick


Nick Berry
Marketing Manager
AdvertWizard - 'Internet Advertising Made Easy'

nick [dot] berryatadvertwizard [dot] com
Tel: +44 (0) 208 591 1125 ext 223 mob: 07715 748894

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Lloyd" <martinatdomino [dot] com>
To: <uk-netmarketingatchinwag [dot] com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: UKNM: Cost of bringing in visitors


I've run a couple of campaigns that got 20% + click throughs, and have heard
of a few more. They all had a few things in common, and I think these things
tend to explain why most banner ad campaigns have such a high cost of
aquisition

1 : Right place. In all these 98cases the ads were in exactly the right
place,
keyword searches on search engines or niche sites.

2 : Right creative. Unless you've got the budget / time to do lots of
testing getting 'perfect creative' is a matter of luck. Good copywriters and
designers will usually do a decent job, but Caples comment about one
headline outpulling another by nineteen times is very true online.

3 :Small audience - and this is the killer. For most products once you've
found the 'perfect audience' that always clicks on the banner and often
converts you discover its pretty small. Every time you aim to grow your
reach you move away from this perfect audience and end up with worse
targeting and worse response to your creative.

All the 'successful' campaigns I mention above had budgets under �5000,
attempts to roll them out further stalled when an increase in reach
dramatically slashed click through rates and led to a correspondingly high
cost of sales.

On a related noe does anyone have experience of Flycast? They were
suggesting they could achieve a 2% ctr at �5 cpm which seemed like about the
right price for banners to me.


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