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Subject: Credit Card Fraud (was RE: UKNM: CallNet0800)
From: Steve Johnston
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:25:32 GMT

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Begbie [rodatbegbie [dot] com (mailto:rodatbegbie [dot] com)]
Sent: 11 November 1999 01:46

<snip>
>And I would definitely not describe the lack of SSL as a "massive
security
>flaw".

Absolutely right.

>The person who manages to packet sniff and intercept a credit card number
>will not become rich. The person who gets through a badly set-up firewall
>and gets a *database* of credit card numbers will become rich.

>If I were after credit card numbers, I wouldn't waste my time on the
>inertnet -- i'd be bin-raking at the mall.

No, no, no. The person who can get away with _using_ them becomes rich.
Getting hold of bucket loads of valid credit card numbers is easy as
anything. Getting away with using them is the fraudster's art.

Steve.

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