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Subject: RE: UKNM: Re: Banner ads
From: Tony Newland
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:18:14 +0100

My ha'penny worth for today.
In my (admittedly) limited experience there are a number of things that
have to be taken into account with any banner campaign.
1) Demogrpahics WRT targeting.

2) Site placements and the fit with these demographics. (All v basic
stuff..)

3) Creative:
There seems to be a philosophy with a lot of campaigns that one size fits
all, that is the same creative can legitimately go into a number of
different portals/sites and expect the same results. I think that this is a
mistake. Considering that the web is made up of communities who have
different interests etc I believe that any successful banner campaign must
take this into account and appeal to the interests of the *community* being
target as well as the demogrpahic. The Bra ad highlited by a certain Mr
Tester ;-) is a prime example, although this has more to do with product
than the creative.

An example of a good one (from my own site of course....never let it be said
that I pass up a chance at self promotion.) is a blue chip co. incorporating
a rainbow flag (I work for a gay content site) into the creative. Click
throughs soared.

The same thing could be done for things like football sites, a womens portal
etc could equally with a bit of imagination deliver higher results, or at
least cut wastage. Yes it costs more in terms of banner design etc but it is
more cost effective in terms of cost per click. Synergy taken to the
consumer level. "You like football...we like football, click on our lovely
football orientated creative..." OK so this wouldn't necessarily work for a
product totally unrelated to football...but it might. Anyone done any
studies into this?

4) Motivation:
Much has been made out of the fact that online advertising is interactive
rather than the passively watching TV etc i.e. you have to make an effort to
avoid watching TV ads by switching to another channel. Banners which give
people a reason to click on them (other than being linked through to a site
that has fab products etc and great fulfillment...but of course) should
surely have a higher CTR than ones that don't I read a report that banners
with the words "Click here" got a bigger response than ones that didn't
(anyone help here?) as they provided an instruction. No-one does something
for nothing, especially when it is costing them time.

A lot of campaigns don't at the moment appear to be doing a some of these,
and are rather just splurged out at as many eyes as feasibly possible in the
grand old traditions of mass marketing. Banner advertising should act like a
Saville Row Taylor and measure the user's/site's particular size and foibles
(hoho) before making the suit. Haute couture for the digital age. Fab.

Phew, glad that's over.
Anyone want to give a mouthy 25yr old ad manager a job in an
agency/marketing role where I can really get my teeth into this brave new
world?

ATB

Tony

> Tony Newland
> Advertising & Sponsorship Manager
> Rainbow Network Plc
> phone: 0207 278 1105
> fax: 0207 713 7732
> web: http://www.rainbownetwork.com
>
> Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author only and do
not necessarily represent the views of RAINBOW NETWORK PLC.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Broadhurst [broady22athotmail [dot] com (mailto:broady22athotmail [dot] com)]
Sent: 29 September 2000 11:36
To: uk-netmarketingatmail [dot] chinwag [dot] com
Subject: UKNM: Re: Banner ads


The discussion about how good / bad banner advertising seems to be focused
on the banner ad as a separate part of a marketing plan. Banner ads have
there own positives and negatives, but it is more of the question of how
they are used and what the objectives are for using them. There seems to be
comment on online media planners / buyers not being as effective as they
could be, but little suggestion on how they could be more effective. Thought
this might open further discussion.

IMHO I believe that banner ads used within the context of an integrated
marketing campaign will be as effective as they ever can be.

Consider this, traditional advertising can be used for the brand building of
an e-business, yet it works in a different 'space' to that of where the
consumer will actually be able to get to the site. The consumer will take in
the ad but will be unable to respond to it. They will go away and probably
not think about it next time they are online.

Subliminally the consumer will have made a mental note of the ad and next
time the consumer is online they see banner ad in front of them reinforcing
what they have already seen - then action (click through) may take place.

Probably not ground breaking stuff, but does anyone have their opinion on
how banner ads can be used more effectively?

Best Regards

Andrew

project director
andrew broadhurst
broady22athotmail [dot] com
Tel(Mobile): 07971 212726


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