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Subject: RE: UKNM: Jungle Bailout?
From: James Westlake
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:41:48 +0100

It's argued that CEO's account for up to 70% of the brand image - hence when
Branson went ballooning and was not looking like a certain survivor, he was
withdrawn as the face of Virgin in many markets.

But the Virgin brand has now become a commodity, which though linked to
Branson, certainly isn't perceived as being personally run by him. As per
Stelios and Easy Everything... He sits on the board of each of his
companies, but doesn't involve in the every day running of the companies.
They're figureheads - akin to Prime Ministers responsible for vision &
strat.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Reidy [michaelatbespoke [dot] co [dot] uk (mailto:michaelatbespoke [dot] co [dot] uk)]
Sent: 05 September 2000 16:56
To: uknmatchinwag [dot] com
Subject: RE: UKNM: Jungle Bailout?


Not much to disagree with there, Stewart.

One question: What value does the Virgin brand have without Richard Branson?
There are those who would argue that he is the brand!

Virgin is the ultimate example of successful brand extension.

MR


Michael Reidy
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stewart Dean [SDeanatScient [dot] com (mailto:SDeanatScient [dot] com)]
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 4:46 PM
To: uknmatchinwag [dot] com
Subject: RE: UKNM: Jungle Bailout?

> Michael Reidy doth spak.
>
> Are people actually starting to realize that only products

> have value and
> not brands?
>

You ain't from around these part are you? How much reality
infringes on the
marketing dream is arbitary in many cases. Pick up Wired and
it's full of
companies who think their brand hold the same communication
value as
McDonalds.

You're right - but the measure of a brand is how many
products it can shift
- especailly those with a amazingly high mark up (like Nike
for example).

I doubt you'd say the virgin brand was worthless for
example. Brand
unfortunatly does have a high value for many - simply as it
give a point of
reference in a chaotic product ladened world. I think
Radiohead have the
right idea (see this months Q).

Cheers


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