Re: FLASH: 17% turned off Javascript [was Back button javascript ]

[unique]

Helen Triolo wrote:


>unique wrote:

>>

>

>  > Very dismayed to come back here and discover that no one seems to

>>  have a CLUE or INTEREST in this topic.

>>

>>  NO ONE care except me and Jeff?

>>

>

>Yeah, Ken, you know we care!  But this issue isn't peculiar to

>Flash


But certainly it is ESSENTIAL, to MANY Flash Developers!


I believe that I NEED to get a(n even better) "grip" on JavaScript if 

I am to become a "Full-Flash Master" -- there's just TOO MANY THINGS, 

*about Flash*, that are easiest to do via JavaScript.


>--every time you design any kind of web page you have to balance

>the added functionality you get from Javascript (eg, image mouseovers)

>against the knowledge that some of your viewers will have it turned

>off.


Yah. But I wanna know if my JavaScript IMPROVEMENTS to my Flash 

movies are gonna be REJECTED by viewers BEFORE they even get to seen 

the movies at all; AND, I desperately want STATS about this, so that 

I can make INTELLIGENT decisions.


>I don't think there's a correlation between having javascript

>turned off and having flash disabled,


Well there certainly IS, *100% of the time*, if I rely upon 

JavaScript functionality to make my Flash movies work at their BEST. 

Right?


>except for those who are

>mistakenly paranoid about something taking control of their browser

>(java--oooooh, activex----oooooh, javascript, sounds like java---better

>turn it all off!)


I just wanna know where I stand, as a Flash Developer.


(Cf. other recent posts from me! :-) ).


>Given the choice, server-side solutions like asp and cgi are almost

>always a better choice than javascript


... and take ONE HECK OF A LONGER TIME to learn ...


>(or in the case of Flash, scriptless detection),


"Got that", more-or-less ...


>but for straight html pages, you kinda have to go

>with Javascript for any sort of interactivity.


For my HTML pages, I'm not worried about JavaScript.


For my *Flash movies*, I'M VERY CONCERNED.


>Same kind of choice you

>make when choosing between bitmaps and vector graphics, IMO--reasons for

>going with either, but you still have to make the choice.  If you want

>to be completely safe and viewable by all, never use javascript.


NOT a "Black or White Issue" for me. I *want stats*, so that I can 

make EVERY design decision with INTELLIGENCE, and *some sort of 

finesse*. MY INCOME *depends upon* this!


Doesn't everyone else's, too, or are ya all "too busy" to have time 

to be concerned or even think about this?


The "8-17%" SHOCKED me. A BIG "DUH MOVE", TO TURN OFF JS! (How "busy" 

can one really be, when surfing? I've NEVER FELT that JS has 

contributed significantly to DL speed! And, I've spend a big bulk of 

my time over the past two years "surfing" ... at least an average of 

3 hours per day, every day (till I got my great "real job").


>If you want your pictures to be perfectly viewable by all in flash, 

>never use bitmaps.


It AIN'T about the Concept of "Perfection". Again, NOT a "black or 

white" issue with me.


These sorts of decisions, when designing Flash movies, require 

KNOWLEDGE about *browser info*. NEVER simply a black-or-white 

"choice" (IMO), unless one has decided that one is just "too busy" to 

take time to THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS. And, if so, "Good Luck" to 

THEM: they MAY be busy *NOW*, BUT "mastery" of making one's Flash 

movies ACCESSIBLE to the *proper audience* seems to be the KEY TO THE 

"FUTURE", if one is to SURVIVE into the foreseeable future as a Flash 

Developer.


Thanks and HTH,


Ken Sherwood


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Check out http://www.kensherwood.com on Monday, April 10.


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