FLASH: RE: foto3.com site

[sahlan cherpitel]

ilia wrote:



Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:59:04 -0700

From: "Ilia Pasymansky" <

iliap75hotmail [dot] com

>

Subject: RE: FLASH: major MIDI question


Hi !

I counted 70 pretty good quality photographs on your page and it wasn't

preloading anything at all!!!

how!? did! you !do this??!!!    this is not less than 10 K jpegs each..

Are you loading each of them as a new movie??.. still should be some delays

on my 56 K ..

Or I am missing something or you did some amazing compression here..

Ilia


>

From: sahlan cherpitel <sfoto3 [dot] com>

      http://www.foto3.com




hi ilia,


ok, i may not be able to draw with either hand, so i'm trying to establish

myself as a flash designer specializing in large bitmaps & typography


thanks for being impressed---it helped make my day by showing me that the

section will at least sometimes work the way i'd hoped


actually the photos range from about 5k to over 30k, average is probably

about 14k, and they're all in one 2.1 MB movie


also except for a brief fade in of the title, i did no tweening in this

flick


the buttons are each single instances & even the forward & reverse are the

same instance flipped


and i held the the movie to 500x500 because on this section i did not scale

down the images to give them better res & allow the movie to be scaled to

fit the browser window


each shot is laid out on a single frame with stop action, which helps too

they both provide a way for the viewer to interact and have some control, as

well as give a few more seconds for more of the movie to download


i think if we developers can provide proper content, a viewer is going to

pause longer before clicking on, which you must have done


you may also have hit the web at a good time


also if you're using IE, i believe MS's hype about it being faster may be

true


i just got dsl a week ago & i've timed the download of the whole 2.1 mb file

ranging from as little as 23 seconds (incredible!) on IE & then 5 minutes

later on NS at 230 seconds---a difference of 10X speed (and there were no

caches to clear as this was my first look after 'putting')


i hate loading, loading, loading.... on any site, & tried to stream mine so

that there's enough light k stuff with some content to occupy a viewer on

normal dial-up, at least the first time around, so that the bigger stuff

down the line can be there waiting


That means an intro that doesn't just kill time, but adds to the overall

effect, like well done credits in a movie---the title designer saul bass was

one of my graphic idols.


the tarrega concerto is not in the movie but on the midi plug in, which is

also streaming... the music's actually 24 minutes long (if someone wants to

look at photos that long) & is only a 168k file


that's the beauty of flash, beyond being able to control the typography,

which is what turned me on as a designer from a heavy print background, &

who got into print production because he was often unhappy with how his

photos were used


in this go round i was turned off by the inability of flat html to control

typography & having to squint at thumbnails in html, then wait eons for a

blow-up to appear


if you look at the posters link on my site, you'll find another extreme....

there i stream but during some of the tweens of the 850 to 1000 px pics, you

can literally watch each frame flicker by----i've had some of it up for a

few months as a test, & it really doesn't play much faster for me on dsl

than it did on k56, which is the way it should be for now


the culprit here is processor speed, and i have a G3 300, which is about the

same speed as a PIII 450.  when we've all got G4s & 5s & 1gigNTs, i'll have

to add a bunch of frames to the movie to slow it down a bit


there, i hope i explained enough to satisfy, if not please contact me on or

off list & i'll offer what else i can


& forgive me if i've gone on too much.... at nearly 4am i'm about ready to

crash myself


kind regards & thanks again for giving me some assurrance that my experiment

has succeeded


sahlan



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