Re: FLASH: archive

[Chinwag List Owner]

Hi Everyone,


I've caught up on all the posts about the list archive. The ownership of

these posts is always a difficult and contentious issue, one which any

lawyer will tell you is extremely cloudy. I have intended for a long time

to provide a searchable archive of postings to make everyone's life easier

and to cut down on the number of repeated questions.


I'm now thankfully at a stage where I'm going to spend a great deal more

time concentrating on the mailing lists and sorting out the website that

sits behind them. I'll post up developments to the list as soon as the site

is ready to roll - there's still a few hosting and bandwidth issues to get

sorted.


I'm working on the premise that all postings to the list, aside from

obvious spam and high offensive postings, will be included in the archive.

If anyone wishes their postings to be removed, they can contact me directly

and I will remove them from the archive. I'm taking legal advice on this,

but I believe in the world of common-sense (if such a place exists), this

provides everyone with the most sensible option with, I hope, the

flexibility to protect those who wish to remain more secluded.


If you have any comments, it's best to email me directly, rather than

taking precious list bandwidth. Thanks to everyone for making this such a

useful environment.


Toodle Pip


Sam


At 11:52 02/08/99 -0400, you wrote:

>I'd say there's a simple solution to this one John . . . 

>Publish it in book form! We can all see it, and many more people as well!

>This is afterall what the list is for: to help people learn about Flash!

>

>What this list is and what it represents is a whole bunch of really talented

>people writting in their own words. Its' a unique perpective on Flash or any

>application for that matter! What's more the advice was given freely and

>taken freely, nothing more nothing less!

>

>cYa,

>

>Mary Brzys

>

>

>

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>From: John Croteau <croteauerols [dot] com>

>

>To: flashershocker [dot] com

>>Subject: Re: FLASH: archive

>>Date: Sun, Aug 1, 1999, 12:42 PM

>>

>

>> Hi all,

>>

>> This is not rocker science. There are 2 issues here and they are both

>> clear legally and morally.

>>

>> 1) The Flasher List is NOT owned by us the subscribers. It is owned by

>> Sam Michel. No one, not me not you, only Sam has a right to make an

>> archive available for this list.

>>

>> 2) There is only one allowable use of the List after it is published.

>> That is that of an archive and from number one above you can see only

>> Sam Michel has the right to create or authorize an archive.

>>

>> Other uses of the List besides personal use and that of an archive would

>> require permission of the authors (us).

>>

>> Just because an archive would be useful and other peoople have them does

>> not mean Sam has to provide or authorize one. Since, Sam is not

>> generally an active participant on this List, you should direct your

>> request(s) to him and not the List.

>>

>> If every member of this List wants an archive and I doubt if there is

>> any subscriber who is opposed to having one, we still don't have the

>> right to create one on our own. We could create a new List or join one

>> of several others (some with archives - some without), but an archive

>> for this List is totally up to Sam. Unless you want to buy the List from

>> him.

>> http://www.FlashCentral.com/Tech/Resources/Flash.htm#Discussion

>>

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Toodle Pip


Sam

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