Re: FLASH: archive

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From: Dorian Nisinson <dorianbway [dot] net>

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To: flashershocker [dot] com

>Subject: Re: FLASH: archive

>Date: Sun, Aug 1, 1999, 1:26 PM

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> Hi Mimieux,

>  I don't think John C's point was about having an archive or not. I

> think everyone agrees that an archive is a fine thing for the list to

> have.  The point is that the right to set up an archive belongs to the

> owner of the list. The person or group that supplies the list server and

> manages the list is not a paid employee of the people who use it. He or

> she is doing it as a service to a particular community. This is a nice

> thing for them to do. I, for one, have been a member of this list since

> it started and have gotten immeasurable benefit from it. (Thank you Sam)

>  As to matters of law and legalities, let us try to keep lawyers and

> such out of this discussion. The heart of the matter is that Sam is the

> owner of the list and it is his right to decide how, where, if and who

> sets up a searchable archive for this list. This is, legalities aside,

> just simple good manners.

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> <soap box>

>  John S seems to want to be a help to the list, which is a fine thing.

> It might have been wiser to follow this list for a while longer before

> deciding unilaterally how the list needs to be helped and who was to do

> it. But his intention was good. This is not a bad thing. It just turned

> out badly so far.

>  If I see an old lady standing on the street corner looking worried and

> I decide to help, what should I do? Go up to her and take her arm firmly

> in mine to make her feel secure and take her across the street. Or ask

> her if she would like help crossing the street so that I can then find

> out she looked worried because she hadn't been able to get a taxi for

> the last 10 minutes? ;>

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> </soap box>


My turn on the soapbox:


This happen almost exactly to me yesterday; here we were coming out of

church and there was this little old lady, well to me she looked like she

wanted something, as if she wanted someone to open the door, couldn't be too

certain at the time, but since it caught my eye, well I mys well ask?

Me talking to her through the door "Excuse me, do you want me to open the

door?" The lady behind the door "No, no thats' ok"

My husband walking next to me says "Mar, she must be waiting for someone,

that's why she's standing there" I said well it was odd, she walk right up

to the door and stopped, I thought she needed help . . . I looked right at

her, yup she wanted something she just wasn't saying it; but it wasn't that

she wanted someone to open the door she wanted something else . . .


Mary Brzys


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> Dorian

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> "Good manners are the grease that allows societies wheels to keep

> turning."

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Mimieux10aol [dot] com wrote:

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>> i really don't want to jump in, but i can't see how the availability of an

>> archive would be offensive to anyone- this is the only  list i belong to that

>> does not have a list. i can't imagine that the members of the director's list

>> or the after effects list or the media 100 list each and every signed a

>> waiver to allow use of the emails as a part of an archive. lists are supposed

>> to be about sharing information- i can't see how that process would be

>> affected in any way but positively. often, the list is discussing a problem

>> that i haven't encountered and a week later i need that info and i have no

>> other recourse to start that thread again.   usually don't so i won't add

>> noise to the list.

>>

>> i wonder how the list feels about the need for an archive? what about it,

>> guys- yeah or nay?

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