Re: FLASH: Loads java>crashes netscape>results

[John Croteau]

Hi Nigel,


> Well this is a good start.

> http://www.FlashCentral.com/Tech/HawaiiMap/ does not crash the browser

> like you saw so if you can test this one

> http://www.shockwave.com/

> The only difference that I can see here is that hawaiimap loads in a

> stop state while shockwave does not.

> So I would have to rephrase 'if you laod a page with a flash file that

> starts in a play state and ....etc...'


I've been meaning to comment on this but this seeems to be a good time

to comment.


Two, points, first the number two problem (after MIME) for Flash crashes

that I have found is an FSCommand call without swLiveConnect=true being

set in HTML. This only affects Netscape 4. This is usually caused

because a stand alone FSCommand was left in. 


Under normal conditions Netscape 4 loads Java before starting Flash. The

lack of a swLiveconnect=True in a file that calls FSCommand (via

LiveConnect) is very likely to cause a browser crash or a failure in the

Flash file's playback.


What may be happening is that not all of the Flash files in a frameset

have swLiveConnect set to true and one is making an FSCommand call

before Java is loaded. This could be complicated by highly complex frame

structures which place a strain on browsers even without Flash.


At http://www.shockwave.com/ there are three Flash files, the structure

is complex and I don't have time to see if swLiveConnect is set for all

three files.


Even if swLiveConnect is set true for all 3, it is possible that there

is some miscommunication that inadvertently tells one of the Flash files

to start even though it has an swLiveConnect=True parameter. 


The bottom line is no Flash file that uses FSCommand should be playing

before Java is loaded, otherwise a crash is quite possible, but like

MIME will not affect everyone.


If anyone knows of a site that is not so convoluted as

http://www.shockwave.com/ that crashes Flash in Netscape 4 when Java

hasn't been previously loaded, please let me know.


Also, if someone has time to check and see (or knows) if all 3 html

(jsp) pages on http://www.shockwave.com/ that serve Flash have

swLiveConnect=true also let us know.


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