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Subject: RE: FLASH: OT: The Spam/scam sham, or, Samir redux
From: Samir Ahmed
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:03:55 GMT

Hi Ken,

I do not mean to be personal but if I launched this website I would be the
someone high by now and not just the manager of a web design team? I can see
the confusion here, this other guy is also Samir Ahmed. I Joined the list
much later as u can see, my emails started coming much into 2000.

I have no personal grudges against you or anyone and personally I am a hard
working guy trying to make my living doing flash for His Highness Sheikh
Mohammed crown prince of Dubai. I wish I never asked the damn question of
bandwidth problems.

Just a few days ago my company launched the website of our country's
President H.H. Sheikh Zayed at http://www.sheikhzayed.com. I asked for a
review of the same and found people from the flash group telling me it takes
too long to load on slow bandwidth.

When I saw the <scam> I realized that it took longer and I wanted to compare
other peoples opinions, not just send them a <scam> link.

I hope this clears some air and please, I do not wish to discuss this matter
more. I hardly write mails to the flash list anyway.

Sorry to all those who are feeling I took their time.

Happy New year to all and lets make it a flasher new year.

Samir Ahmed
Web Development Team Manager
http://www.SheikhMohammed.co.ae
Tel: +9714-3322220
Fax: +9714-3322202


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Sherwood [uniquemacatearthlink [dot] net (mailto:uniquemacatearthlink [dot] net)]
Sent: 02 January 2001 10:19
To: flasherlist
Subject: FLASH: OT: The spam/scam sham, or, Samir redux


Geez I hate being lied to. Don't you?

... or maybe my thinking isn't clear here. Is my logic faulty?!

-----

On 12/28/99, Samir Ahmed <miltechatemirates [dot] net [dot] ae> tells the Flasher list
that he has "just noticed a cool flash website" at www.sheikhmohammed.com.
His message is signed "@rtaffects".

On 2/28/00, Samir <miltechatemirates [dot] net [dot] ae> reveals to the Flasher list that
he is in fact *launching* the very same site that he'd "just noticed" in the
previous message. (Odd how one can just notice something that he eventually
launches.)

On 12/21/00, I receive a spam from Samir <miltechatemirates [dot] net [dot] ae>
concerning a site at artaffects.go.coolebiz.net.

On 12/30/00, Samir Ahmed <Samir [dot] Aatsheikhmohammed [dot] co [dot] ae> tells us that he has
"just noticed" the site at artaffects.go.coolebiz.net ... .

In his declarations to the members of this list, on 12/31/00, Samir Ahmed
<Samir [dot] Aatsheikhmohammed [dot] co [dot] ae> infers that he is not the author of the 12/21
spam, but rather a receiver of same, and invokes the existence of a person
with the same name.

-----

I honestly would prefer to believe that, in my original post, I had wrongly
accused Samir. I prefer to respect others, not disdain them.

At this point, however, in reviewing the above information, it seems almost
impossible to conclude other than that my original instincts were correct,
after all.

The *only way* I could be wrong about Samir is if the Samir Ahmed
<miltechatemirates [dot] net [dot] ae> who *launched* the sheikhmohammed.co.ae site is
*not* the same Samir Ahmed <Samir [dot] Aatsheikhmohammed [dot] co [dot] ae> who describes
himself as "Web Development Team Manager, http://www.SheikhMohammed.co.ae"
... "both of whom" are or have been members of this list. Perhaps, somehow,
this could be the case, but it seems to me to be a real stretch.

BTW, this ain't about me being right or about a witch hunt of any kind. It's
about honesty, integrity, and setting the record straight. Call me
dysfunctional, if you will, but I am, by nature, *extremely* defensive when
it comes to someone deceiving, scamming, or lying to people whom I consider
to be genuine friends, and about whom I care. So shoot me. :-)

Ken Sherwood, still fighting "the never-ending battle for Truth, Justice,
and the American Way" :-) .

--

No Hurries No Worries.

http://kensherwood.com/zenkat.html


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