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Subject: RE: FLASH: salary in sf
From: Williams, Marcus
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:21:01 +0100

Opps.
M

-----Original Message-----
From: Williams, Marcus [Marcus_Williamsattvratings [dot] com (mailto:Marcus_Williamsattvratings [dot] com)]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 9:58 AM
To: 'flasheratchinwag [dot] com'
Subject: RE: FLASH: salary in sf


Rodney, (off-list)

I hope you don't mind me contacting you off-list.

Are you talking of Auckland or Wellington ??

My wife, (Dunedin born and raised) has been here with me, (Tampa, Florida)
for about 2 years. After she gets her Master's we're heading to New Zeal'd.
Most likely Wellington.

$1000.00 US per month is mid for a home in the US. Of course that's
currently about $1800.00 NZ. ???
Are the jobs in general really paying that well there ?

Marcus Williams





-----Original Message-----
From: rodney entwisle [flatstickatmindless [dot] com (mailto:flatstickatmindless [dot] com)]
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 6:26 PM
To: flasheratchinwag [dot] com
Subject: Re: FLASH: salary in sf


OK this realy has me sh*tting bricks :) I come from little old New
Zealand and am considering a mofe to USA so the person I am engaged to can
be close to her family... but at these prices I am considering all options
:) Even in the most expencive City in New Zealand a reasonable 3 or 4
bedroom house will rent for $500 US approx a month... if you want a mini
mantion with 7 rooms multiple bathrooms two spa pools beach access and views
in a great area you are looking a little more than $1000 US a month... well
thats what my brother was paying.

The only solution I can think of is buy a large launch here in NZ and sail
it to USA and only pay the berthing fees... Ill have to make sure its coverd
with solar pannels (I love electricity too much) and have to go with some
sort of sattelite connection for the net.... but it has to be much cheaper
(and classier) than paying rediculus rents to live in bad neighbourhoods.


----- Original Message -----
From: Remik <remikatdkholdings [dot] com>
To: <flasheratchinwag [dot] com>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: FLASH: salary in sf


> I'm replying to you via private email - there's been so many responses on
> the list that I didn't think to add to it...
>
> I was in your position last year, moving to California. San Francisco was
> my #1 city on the list, and I spent a good 2 weeks in SF driving around,
> looking for a house. I left throughly disappointed - $2000-2500/month
would
> only afford me an old 2 bedroom house/townhouse in a bad neighborhood -
abut
> 1000 sq foot place. I literally would start looking and driving at 8am
and
> drive till 11pm, with short breakes for lunch and dinner. I subscribed to
> two rental agencies services and was buying papers with classifieds daily,
> and still couldn't find anything that I would enjoy and be able to call
> home. Now, my standards are not that of a "must have" 5 star hotel with
> 5000 sq foot house, but anywhere else I used to live, one could get a very
> nice, new or virtually new, 3-4 bedroom house in a brand new neighborhood
> for under $2000 - no problem. So this was quite a shock to me - a similar
> house in SF area can easily be about $10K/month!!
>
> Anyways, long story short, I moved to Sacramento, about 90 minutes east of
> SF. Quiet city, not exactly San Francisco, but real estate prices were
much
> more reasonable - 5 bedroom brand new house for $1400/month. I lived
there
> for a year now, and am right in the middle of moving to San Diego now.
Got
> a new house in the most beautiful neighbourhood, right on a golf course
(#9
> hole is my back yard), with perfect view, 2700 sq feet, 4 bedrooms - all
for
> only $2200/month.
>
> Now I don't know whether you are absolutely set on SF and what your
standard
> of living is, so all this may not apply to you. Personally, *I* prefer
nice
> quiet(er) areas with new houses and lots of room around, vs San
Francisco's
> "spacious 2 bedroom apartments" (read: 625 sq feet total!!). If you are
> just starting in this field, SF may be a fantastic experience - I really
> like that city and I used to visit often from Sacramento. If you don't
mind
> a little smaller place with couple roommates to split the astronomical
cost
> of living and enjoy going out a lot (kind of tough to spend all your time
at
> home when your home is all of 600 sq feet!), then SF may be perfect. And
> there is definitely a lot of different computer companies out there, so
> finding a job shouldn't be an issue - assuming you have the skills.
> Competition is quite high for the better jobs, but it takes time to get to
> the level where you can call your own price. If you know what you are
doing
> and are looking for entry level to mid-level positions, the good news is
> there's a shortage of qualified people...
>
> If you are looking for a more "reasonable" housing costs... I'd look
> elsewhere. San Francisco is not cheap by any stretch of imagination - it
> was recently voted as more expensive than Manhattan, NY.
>
> Good luck, whatever you decide... Let me know how things end up :-)
>
> Remik
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olga Nunes" <olgaatonespire [dot] com>
> To: <flasheratchinwag [dot] com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 5:22 PM
> Subject: FLASH: salary in sf
>
>
> > For those of you that live in SF-- I've asked this q before but lost the
> > email that had the answer. :)
> >
> > If I work in San Fran for 50K doing flash development and web design,
will
> I
> > be homeless?
> >
> > Is 65K/yr more reasonable? The job is in Santa Clara but I would be
> living
> > in SF as close to Golden Gate park as I could get.
> >
> > Please respond asap-- I'm supposed to get back to a job with my wage.
> > ;) -- thanks!
> > Olga
> >
> >
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flashforward2000 and the Flash(tm) Film Festival
July 24-26, 2000, NEW YORK CITY, Hammerstein Ballroom
www.flashforward2000.com
Produced by United Digital Artists and lynda.com
Sponsored by Macromedia, Adobe Systems, Fusion, Inc, AtomFilms,
shockwave.com and Electric Rain.
1.877.4.FLASH.4 or (1.805.640.6679 outside the US and Canada)
Register before June 30 and save $200!!-- www.flashforward2000.com
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flasher is generously supported by...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
flashforward2000 and the Flash(tm) Film Festival
July 24-26, 2000, NEW YORK CITY, Hammerstein Ballroom
www.flashforward2000.com
Produced by United Digital Artists and lynda.com
Sponsored by Macromedia, Adobe Systems, Fusion, Inc, AtomFilms,
shockwave.com and Electric Rain.
1.877.4.FLASH.4 or (1.805.640.6679 outside the US and Canada)
Register before June 30 and save $200!!-- www.flashforward2000.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To unsubscribe or change your list settings go to
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flasher is generously supported by...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
flashforward2000 and the Flash(tm) Film Festival
July 24-26, 2000, NEW YORK CITY, Hammerstein Ballroom
www.flashforward2000.com
Produced by United Digital Artists and lynda.com
Sponsored by Macromedia, Adobe Systems, Fusion, Inc, AtomFilms,
shockwave.com and Electric Rain.
1.877.4.FLASH.4 or (1.805.640.6679 outside the US and Canada)
Register before June 30 and save $200!!-- www.flashforward2000.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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