Re: FLASH: We *want* those historic plugins!

[unique]

Hi John,


>At 7:14 AM 3/11/0, unique wrote:

>>  > What has to happen for this to become available?

>>

>>  I'll tell ya one thing that has to happen: more than one or

>>  two of us has to become "hot" about this issue at the same time!

>

>No, posting lots, with lots of exclamation points,


WOW you guys are tough! :-)


I only see one exclamation point at a time. Do you see more than one at a time?


And with that *one* exclamation point, I was only trying to attract 

some *more attentive* attention from MM than has been provided, so 

far, regarding this concern.


>won't help, and may actually reduce your overall readership.

  ^^^^^               ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^


?????.?


Do you mean "... among list members" or "... among *MM Staff*"? PLEASE answer.


Has MM put into place an "anti-exclamation-point" policy? (Matt 

mentioned exclamation points, too.)


More specifically, do exclamation points !irritate! certain MM reps? 

If so, this would be good info for us to have for future reference 

and for future attempts to communicate *clearly*, and in a 

*non-rejected* way ...


>Like I said, if you want to write your own JavaScript routines, and already

>tossed your browsers with older plugins, then there is currently no online

>repository of all the various varieties people might want. You can still

>get older players off your operating system CD, or off old browser CDs...

>they're frozen in various places.


But NOT "frozen" *at* MM?


Why not?


>Tech support has been pushing for such a historical online repository for a

>long time


Gee, maybe they are aware of a developers' need that the rest of MM 

just doesn't seem to be able to grasp.


>If you're just concerned about ... <snip>


NOT the point. We just want to be able to see that our work *works* 

with ALL plugins. There's only *one* way to accomplish this, toward 

which I've already hinted, here and elsewhere.


>JavaScript detection -- in those browsers

>which support it! -- then there are many existing methods published. If

>you're just concerned about playback, then exporting in older SWF formats

>will give you older SWF files.


Not enough. Just provide the plugins and be done with all of this hoo-ha!


>If you want to *do* something, then drop a note to wish-flash so that other

>people understand what your precise need is...


Hopefully this post, and my recent post to Matt, have articulated our 

concerns sufficiently; if not, please let me know!


>this would help back up tech

>support's previous requests for some type of ongoing player library,

>thanks.


I find it strange, and, frankly, as a holder of MM options, 

HORRIFYING, that MM is NOT willing to take the advice of their 

Support Staff WITHOUT needing to have developers' pleas tacked on 

behind.


Doesn't MM *trust* the advice of their support staff ... the people 

of MM who have the most intimate contact with the people (US) that 

put the money into MM's pockets?


Sincerely,


Ken Sherwood


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                               ATTENTION MACROMEDIA:


                                 Historic plugins.

                                   We want them.

                                   We need them.

                                 May we have them?

                                 If not, why not?


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