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> flasher-digest         Friday, March 31 2000         Volume 

> 01 : Number 2764

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> In this issue:

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>    Re: FLASH: Fireworks to Flash (SOME THOUGHTS)

>    RE: FLASH: Viking site made in flash

>    RE: FLASH: Robot helper 

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/ flash/bot.h tml

>    FLASH: How can I check stats of Flash Plug-in  presence on 

> an existing site?

>    Re: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

>    FLASH: edit-in-place

>    Re: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

>    R: FLASH: site check web.tiscalinet.it/mazlab

>    RE: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli /flash/bot.html

>    RE: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli /flash/bot.html

>    FLASH: Please help me

>    RE: FLASH: Macromedia and Pornography

>    Re: FLASH: ASP for Dummy

>    FLASH: Dilemma

>    Re: FLASH: flash for banners or not?

>    Re: FLASH: ASP for Dummy

>    Re: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

>    Re: FLASH: ASP for Dummy

>    FLASH: Scaling symbol tween on Action script?

>    RE: FLASH: Leaf movie clip - Please help me

>    Re: FLASH: ASP for Dummy

>    RE: FLASH: Dilemma

> 

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 04:15:05 -0800

>

From: Daniel Brown <danielbAdobe [dot] COM>

> Subject: Re: FLASH: Fireworks to Flash (SOME THOUGHTS)

> 

> > When the FinePoint folks were shopping their team around 

> they already had

> > animation on the horizon. Macromedia passed on it because 

> Fireworks was

> > already going along cooler paths. Adobe later purchased 

> FinePoint to try a

> > catch-up with ImageStyler 1.0. That product didn't work out, so the

> > animation timeline and long-overdue SWF export are renamed 

> as LiveMotion

> > 1.0. It's still the ImageStyler team, ImageStyler interface 

> differences

> > from other Adobe apps... even the beta documentation 

> includes ImageStyler

> > screenshots (see "Using the Toolbox"). LiveMotion *is* 

> ImageStyler... it

> > didn't succeed in going up against Fireworks, so the 2.0 

> version has been

> > repackaged as "more than a Flash killer":

> > http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news_search.cfm?NewsID=946

> > 

> > (What you describe with the trademark term "RoundTrip 

> Graphics" is actually

> > edit-in-place. You'd need to add the sourcefile location, resizing

> > parameters, behavior exchange and the rest to catch up to 

> Fireworks 2

> > there. Edit-in-place has been around for awhile.)

> 

> So... In the whole effort to "get to the point", is your 

> point to me (and

> this audience) that they should think LiveMotion sucks because it has

> ImageStyler in it? If so, you should really just say that then.

> 

> As for the term Flash Killer, you know as well as I do that 

> this term is a

> MEDIA creation, not ours. Our response was that the aim is to 

> be broader

> (more than) a Flash authoring tool since it will also author 

> SVG, etc. and

> has content creation tools in it.

> 

> 

> > No, facing it, it's trying to make sense of your posts that I find

> > difficult. Online I'm more used to people who speak to the 

> point and who

> > don't contradict themselves. Your mileage may vary, though.

> 

> (giggle) Relax John. We're at 1.0. How threatening could we 

> possibly be?

> 

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> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:19:44 +0200

>

From: Crystal Martin <crystal [dot] martinprintsoft [dot] de>

> Subject: RE: FLASH: Viking site made in flash

> 

> www.jurab.se/walhall/

> 

> The sight is lovely!  But I agree, it is not necessary to 

> take over the

> entire screen and that it does is a bit frustrating.  The text during

> load time is wonderful.  I'm not sure how long it took to 

> load as I was

> busy reading the text, but I think it was not too long.  Great job!

> Crystal

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:30:48 +0100

>

From: Robert M Shaw <robert [dot] shawaurigatech [dot] com>

> Subject: RE: FLASH: Robot helper 

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/ flash/bot.h tml

> 

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

> 

> Mike, excellent! look forward to seeing finished article?

> Especially like the expressions and that you've got all the shadows

> working well to give 3d impression.

> You must have the patience of a Saint (and not Bernard!)

> 

> Robert

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:52:57 +0100

>

From: Matt Coyne <mattthreezero [dot] co [dot] uk>

> Subject: FLASH: How can I check stats of Flash Plug-in  

> presence on an existing site?

> 

> Hi All

> 

> I want to be able to get stats of visitors to an existing 

> site, regarding

> the presence of the Flash Plug-in and, preferably, the version.

> 

> Am I looking at Javascript, or could I use a small Flash 

> movie that sends

> info to me (or drops the info into a db) when visitors have 

> the plug-in

> (kinda like the mook sniffer]. I realise that I would then 

> only get numbers

> of people *with* the Flash plug, but I could compare that to 

> the existing

> web stats.

> 

> One thing to bear in mind is that this site gets up to 

> between 200-700+

> unique visits a day.

> 

> Thinking out loud, but in need of help. Any takers?

> 

> TIA

> matt

> 

> :  t  h  r  e  e  z  e  r  o  :

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:52:37 +0200

>

From: Pascal Brun <brunflyart [dot] ch>

> Subject: Re: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

> 

> Looks great and what a small file size... well done!!

> I'd love to see the little guy also change perspective..

> maybe have him not *only* show from front?!

> 

> ..this leads me to a question..are you into bots? do you know where

> (URL) I can get information on how bots work and if they may be

> connected to flash site?

> 

> Thanx for an ansewr..and again..cool robot!

> 

> "Mountain, Mike J" wrote:

> 

> > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

> >

> > I'm developing some robot helper type things for a site I'm 

> doing...no

> > preloader but they're 20k....(there will be a preloader for 

> the full site.)

> >

> > I'd appreciate any feedback.

> >

> > It's expressions will be responsive to the users actions 

> eventually.....

> >

> > I'm particularly pleased with my chrome effect...

> >

> > Cheers

> >

> > Mike M

> >

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> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:58:03 +1000

>

From: Richard McLean <vorplen130 [dot] aone [dot] net [dot] au>

> Subject: FLASH: edit-in-place

> 

> jd write:

> >  (What you describe with the trademark term "RoundTrip Graphics"

> >is actually edit-in-place. You'd need to add the sourcefile location,

> >resizing parameters, behavior exchange and the rest to catch up

> >to Fireworks 2 there. Edit-in-place has been around for awhile.)

> 

> 

> Now I'm confused. I'm sure that it is more than edit-in-place. I can

> understand why you'd be playing the feature down, but it certainly

> sounds like more than this.

> 

> jd or Daniel, is it?

> 

> - -- 

> 

> 

> kind regards,

> Richard McLean

> 

> [ Click any key to continue ]

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:14:08 -0500

>

From: Helen Triolo <designeri-technica [dot] com>

> Subject: Re: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

> 

> "Mountain, Mike J" wrote:

> > 

> > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

> > 

> > I'm developing some robot helper type things for a site I'm 

> doing...no

> > preloader but they're 20k....(there will be a preloader for 

> the full site.)

> > 

> > I'm particularly pleased with my chrome effect...

> > 

> Well you should be! (pleased that is).  It's more like 

> plastic-y chrome

> than metal chrome, IMO, but it looks great.  Nice job.  The 

> best part of

> the bot is his bending antenna.  Maybe his mouth should be a lighter

> color so it doesn't blend into the shading as much (hides all his cute

> expressions a little).

> 

> Regards,

> Helen

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> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:15:19 +0100

>

From: "Jacopo Deyla" <jdeylaeurorunner [dot] com>

> Subject: R: FLASH: site check web.tiscalinet.it/mazlab

> 

> I like it.

> Never thought of collaborations?

> 

> If you want to talk about it, write me

> 

> in italiano

> 

> Jacopo Deyla

> Euro.runner - Soluzioni Web

> Via Massarenti, 190

> 40138 Bologna - Italy

> tel. +39-0516360407 fax +39-0514291552

> web: http://www.eurorunner.com

>

jdeylaeurorunner [dot] com (mailto:jdeylaeurorunner [dot] com)

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:29:25 +0100

>

From: "Mountain, Mike J" <Mike [dot] Mountaincapgemini [dot] co [dot] uk>

> Subject: RE: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli /flash/bot.html

> 

> I'm working on the different perspectives, but it's tricky 

> stuff. As for

> bots I'm afraid I know little of the web variety.....

> 

> Cheers

> 

> Mike M

> 

> ++ -----Original Message-----

>

++ From: Pascal Brun [brunflyart [dot] ch (mailto:brunflyart [dot] ch)]

> ++ Sent: 31 March 2000 13:53

>

++ To: flasherchinwag [dot] com

> ++ Subject: Re: FLASH: Robot helper

> ++ http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

> ++ 

> ++ 

> ++ Looks great and what a small file size... well done!!

> ++ I'd love to see the little guy also change perspective..

> ++ maybe have him not *only* show from front?!

> ++ 

> ++ ..this leads me to a question..are you into bots? do you know where

> ++ (URL) I can get information on how bots work and if they may be

> ++ connected to flash site?

> ++ 

> ++ Thanx for an ansewr..and again..cool robot!

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:42:24 +0100

>

From: "Mountain, Mike J" <Mike [dot] Mountaincapgemini [dot] co [dot] uk>

> Subject: RE: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli /flash/bot.html

> 

> ++ Well you should be! (pleased that is).  It's more like 

> ++ plastic-y chrome

> 

> Thanks Helen...

> 

> Yeah.. s'wot I meant....kinda space agey type plastic-y chrome jobby

> thing......chrome was easier to say....(type)

> 

> ++ than metal chrome, IMO, but it looks great.  Nice job.  The 

> ++ best part of

> ++ the bot is his bending antenna.  Maybe his mouth should be 

> a lighter

> ++ color so it doesn't blend into the shading as much (hides 

> ++ all his cute

> ++ expressions a little).

> 

> 

> are you on a mac or PC? - Not tested on a mac yet....(or ever) as it's

> intended for an intranet, PC's with IE5....

> 

> Cheers

> 

> Mike M

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:00:21 +0200

>

From: "Andrea Rizzi" <Andrea [dot] Rizzistarlink [dot] it>

> Subject: FLASH: Please help me

> 

> Hi flasher, I want to know how to make a nice and sweet 

> leave's falling

> effect

> 

> Anybody can help me?

> 

> Thanks in advance

> Andrea

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:02:17 PST

>

From: "John Cocktosten" <jcocktostenhotmail [dot] com>

> Subject: RE: FLASH: Macromedia and Pornography

> 

> >oh, it's actually way easier than that.

> 

> Yeah, it might be easier than that, but it took me about 1 second to 

> determine that Joe Shoults sent this message and not 

> Petenotreallyrockingdownelectricavenue Grant:

> 

> "received: from JOE (joes.copfer.com [216.28.163.100])

> by rock.copfer.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA27410

>

for <flasherchinwag [dot] com>; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:51:50 -0500

> From: "Petenotreallyrockingdownelectricavenue Grant" 

>

<petegpetegrant [dot] com>

>

To: <flasherchinwag [dot] com>

> Subject: RE: FLASH: Macromedia and Pornography"

> 

> 

> 

> It's not that easy on the original spoof....

> 

> JC

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> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:04:39 EST

>

From: Carterspotaol [dot] com

> Subject: Re: FLASH: ASP for Dummy

> 

> In a message dated 3/30/00 11:20:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, 

>

chadobjekt [dot] com [dot] au writes:

> 

> > it is

> >  completely tag based...if you know even the most basic html

> 

> I thought ASP was also completely tag based - sits right next 

> to the HTML in 

> the page, is executed on the server and stripped off before 

> the page is 

> delivered.

> 

> Anyway, I'm loving this book ;-)

> 

> Cheers,

> Stace

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:03:02 -0500

>

From: "Brian" <mattonebhip [dot] infi [dot] net>

> Subject: FLASH: Dilemma

> 

> I have a bit of a dilemma that I would like to get some advice about.

> 

> I have the chance to produce a presentation in Flash for a 

> client who's

> looking to get it done by April 24th. Basically it doesn't 

> sound like a

> particularly over-the-top hard job per se, but I'm still a 

> bit of a newbie

> when it comes to Flash - in particular the programming 

> aspects of it. But I

> figured if nothing else I have a friend who knows Flash real 

> well and this

> list to act as resources should I run into trouble.

> 

> The main problem, however, is that I asked for what I 

> considered a typical

> freelancing payment deal - a third down up front, another 

> third at some

> milesone point, and the rest upon completion of the project. This was

> rejected by the client, and from the best information I have 

> it seems like

> as if I wouldn't see a dime for my efforts until the project 

> was completed.

> This is a company who has a service that ranks third in the world (it

> involves software that bundles e-mail, voice-mail and faxes into one

> integrated accessible area, namely Microsoft Outlook), and 

> I've visited

> their offices, so they're for real as far as I can tell, and 

> they have their

> own system set in place to ensure fairness to both sides of a 

> deal such as

> the one I'm debating entering into.

> 

> But I have a wife and three kids (and a cat) and I've been 

> laid off since

> December and freelancing is a hard business and quite 

> frankly, I don't think

> I need to settle for not getting something up front so I can 

> feed these

> people and pay some bills.

> 

> What opinion does anyone have here?

> 

> - -Brian Matthews

> http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:11:04 -0500

>

From: Sarah Lamont <slamont2mtc [dot] com>

> Subject: Re: FLASH: flash for banners or not?

> 

> Just wanted to thank everyone for their input. :]

> For now, I think I have to change the banner to an animated gif....I

> can't worry about starting a flash revolution just yet..;) 

> deadlines and

> all, ya know. I'll just cross my fingers and wait til 2002.

> thanks again!

> �arah

> 

> John Dowdell wrote:

> > 

> > At 1:42 PM 3/30/0, Sarah Lamont wrote:

> > > Are advertising web banners being made with flash primarily or

> > > not? I was under the impression that they were, but my boss

> > > told me that they should be animated gifs. Is this true?

> > 

> > The majority of banners are GIFs, true, but rich-media ads 

> tend to get

> > better results, and have the better growth rate.

> > 

> > Last week's ICONOCAST quoted Jupiter Communications as 

> saying that 60% of

> > all online advertising will be rich-media by 20002. Among 

> rich-media ads

> > today, Jupiter quotes Flash as the leading technique, with 54% of

> > rich-media ads using it. Enliven and RealAudio follow at 27% apiece.

> > 

> > You can read their summary in the March 23 issue:

> > http://www.iconocast.com/

> > 

> > jd

> - -- 

> "When I die, I hope it can be said of me that I plucked a thistle and

> planted a flower where ever I thought a flower would grow."  

> -Abraham Lincoln

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:19:09 -0500

>

From: Helen Triolo <designeri-technica [dot] com>

> Subject: Re: FLASH: ASP for Dummy

> 

>

Carterspotaol [dot] com wrote:

> > 

> > In a message dated 3/30/00 11:20:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>

> chadobjekt [dot] com [dot] au writes:

> > 

> > > it is

> > >  completely tag based...if you know even the most basic html

> > 

> > I thought ASP was also completely tag based - sits right 

> next to the HTML in

> > the page, is executed on the server and stripped off before 

> the page is

> > delivered.

> 

> You're right about all of the above.  But CF tags look like HTML tags.

> ASP  resides inside of <% ... %> markers and doesn't look 

> like HTML.  As

> Cheri said, if you already know Visual Basic, ASP is easier to learn

> (because it uses VBScript, a kind of subset of VB).  If you know HTML

> but not VB (or another programming language), then Cold Fusion is

> probably easier because it looks more like HTML.  

> 

> Regards,

> Helen

> __________________________________________________________________

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>

designeri-technica [dot] com

> 301-424-6037

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:26:16 +0200

>

From: Pascal Brun <brunflyart [dot] ch>

> Subject: Re: FLASH: Robot helper  

> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

> 

> I tested it on a Mac G3, OS 8.6, Netscape 4.7..worked like a charm :-)

> 

> Helen Triolo wrote:

> 

> > "Mountain, Mike J" wrote:

> > >

> > > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mowgli/flash/bot.html

> > >

> > > I'm developing some robot helper type things for a site 

> I'm doing...no

> > > preloader but they're 20k....(there will be a preloader 

> for the full site.)

> > >

> > > I'm particularly pleased with my chrome effect...

> > >

> > Well you should be! (pleased that is).  It's more like 

> plastic-y chrome

> > than metal chrome, IMO, but it looks great.  Nice job.  The 

> best part of

> > the bot is his bending antenna.  Maybe his mouth should be a lighter

> > color so it doesn't blend into the shading as much (hides 

> all his cute

> > expressions a little).

> >

> > Regards,

> > Helen

> > __________________________________________________________________

> > i-Technica: Innovative Internet Solutions (http://i-Technica.com)

>

> designeri-technica [dot] com

> > 301-424-6037

> >

> > flasher is generously supported by...

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> >

> > -Register before Feb 25 and save $200!!-- www.flashforward2000.com

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:30:47 -0800 (PST)

>

From: james <james_mailingyahoo [dot] com>

> Subject: Re: FLASH: ASP for Dummy

> 

> > You're right about all of the above.  But CF tags

> > look like HTML tags.

> > ASP  resides inside of <% ... %> markers and doesn't

> > look like HTML.  

> - -----

> Ummm, If I recall, Cold Fusion tags are <# ... #>, so

> does that make it easier than <% ... %>

> 

> The tags don't make it easier, it's just the

> difference in languages themselves.  To each their

> own, but if you are running on NT/IIS, ASP is

> built-in, otherwise you have to *buy* cold fusion on

> top of all that.

> 

> I'd rather use a system that's integrated with the OS,

> not something that runs on top of it.  ASP performance

> is outstanding.

> 

> Again, to each their own.  I didn't know VB or any

> programming language when I started with ASP many

> years ago (web years), and it was a snap.

> 

> 

> 

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> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:37:23 -0500

>

From: Jefferis <Jefferispathway [dot] net>

> Subject: FLASH: Scaling symbol tween on Action script?

> 

> I am just curious if this is possible.

> 

> Using the Flash 4 actions and the drag and drop metaphor, is 

> it possible 

> to take a symbol and tween its size along a mouse dragged 

> action as if 

> you were moving forward or back in perspective?

> 

> Jeff

> 

> Jefferis Peterson, Pres.

> Web Design and Marketing

> http://www.PetersonSales.net

> Tel & Fax. 724-458-7169

> 

> ICQ 19112253

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:39:04 -0500

>

From: "Stefaniw, Ted" <STEFATEmail [dot] northgrum [dot] com>

> Subject: RE: FLASH: Leaf movie clip - Please help me

> 

> > ----------

>

> From: Andrea Rizzi[SMTP:Andrea [dot] Rizzistarlink [dot] it]

> > 

> > 

> > Hi flasher, I want to know how to make a nice and sweet 

> leave's falling

> > effect

> > 

> Andrea - In Flash 4 's menu go to "Libraries" then "Graphics" 

> and check out

> the leaf movie clip, that should give you a good start. And 

> for the list's

> sake Please use a more descriptive subject heading so people 

> know what you

> are looking for, thanks.

> - -

> Ted Stefaniw

> Supplier Technical Services - Northrop Grumman

>

stefatemail [dot] northgrum [dot] com

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:44:03 -0500

>

From: Helen Triolo <designeri-technica [dot] com>

> Subject: Re: FLASH: ASP for Dummy

> 

> james wrote:

> > 

> > > You're right about all of the above.  But CF tags

> > > look like HTML tags.

> > > ASP  resides inside of <% ... %> markers and doesn't

> > > look like HTML.

> > -----

> > Ummm, If I recall, Cold Fusion tags are <# ... #>, so

> > does that make it easier than <% ... %>

> > 

> Here is some Cold Fusion code, courtesy of Mark Zukiwsky:

> 

> <cfquery name="flashtext" datasource="MyDatabase" dbtype="OLEDB">

> SELECT busUnit, unitName, novaUnit, activeUnit

> FROM UnitTBL

> WHERE SiteID = #Trim(FORM.SiteID)#

> ORDER BY novaUnit, unitName

> </cfquery>

> <!--- Convert query results into list --->

> <cfset unitList = valueList(flashtext.busUnit)>

> <cfset nameList = valueList(flashtext.unitName)>

> <cfset activeReturn = "">

> <cfloop index = "unitIndex" from = "1" To = "#ListLen(unitList)#">

>    <cfset tempUnit = ListGetAt(unitList, unitIndex)>

>    <cfset unitX = "unit" & unitIndex>

>    <cfoutput>&#unitX#=#tempUnit#</cfoutput>

>    <cfoutput>&#unitNameX#=#URLEncodedFormat(tempName)#</cfoutput>

>    <cfoutput>&#companyX#=#tempNova#</cfoutput>

>    <cfoutput>&#activeX#=#tempActive#</cfoutput>

>    <cfoutput>#chr(13)#</cfoutput>

> </cfloop>

> <cfoutput>&unitCount=#flashtext.recordCount##chr(13)#</cfoutput>

> <cfoutput>&eof=1</cfoutput>

> 

> Here is some ASP code, courtesy of me:

> 

> <%

> Set conn = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

> conn.open "iTechnica","",""

> sql = "SELECT FlashAnswers.date, FlashAnswers.subject,

> FlashAnswers.comment WHERE FlashAnswers.subject Like '%" &

> Request.Form("searchstr") &  "%' ORDER BY FlashAnswers.subject"

> set rs = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")

> rs.Open sql, conn, 3, 3

> rs.MoveFirst

> i=1

> do while (i < CInt(Request.Form("startno")) and not rs.eof)

>   rs.MoveNext

>   i=i+1

> loop

> i=1

> nfound = 0  bla bla bla

> response.write finalstr

> %>

> 

> My point was just that the former probably looks more familiar to an

> HTML coder (and may therefore be a little easier to learn) than the

> latter.  But you're right, the server platform certainly does matter

> too.  One of the main reasons (if not *the* reason) I started with ASP

> was because I could write and test it locally with PWS, which was 100%

> free.

> 

> Regards,

> Helen

> __________________________________________________________________

> i-Technica: Innovative Internet Solutions (http://i-Technica.com)

>

designeri-technica [dot] com

> 301-424-6037

> 

> ------------------------------

> 

> Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:42:54 -0500

>

From: patrickfbestweb [dot] net

> Subject: RE: FLASH: Dilemma

> 

> Say, very politely, "I'm sorry you feel that way, but my 

> terms are very reasonable.  Have a 

> nice day", and walk.  A friend of mine just got screwed by GE 

> Capital (you might have heard 

> of them) on a very similar project.  All through development 

> it was "Looks great!  Fantastic 

> job!".... the day of the presentation it was "It went great!  

> No hitches!  Everybody loved it!"... 

> when it came time to collect it was "The presentation was 

> flawed, nothing worked, we were 

> very disappointed, we don't pay for sub-standard deliverables".  

> Soooo......... My contract stipulates 50% of estimate upon 

> contract signing, 25% of estimate 

> upon design sign-off, and 25% plus any overruns (documented 

> and signed-off changes 

> approved by client) and expenses upon delivery.  I've had one 

> or two balks, and learned 

> later that the people they DID hire got screwed.  So I'm very 

> comfortable with my terms.

> 

> Patrick

> 

> 

> > ** Original Subject: RE: FLASH: Dilemma

>

> ** Original Sender: "Brian" <mattonebhip [dot] infi [dot] net>

> > ** Original Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:10:54 -0500 (EST)

> 

> > ** Original Message follows... 

> 

> >

> > I have a bit of a dilemma that I would like to get some 

> advice about.

> > 

> > I have the chance to produce a presentation in Flash for a 

> client who's

> > looking to get it done by April 24th. Basically it doesn't 

> sound like a

> > particularly over-the-top hard job per se, but I'm still a 

> bit of a newbie

> > when it comes to Flash - in particular the programming 

> aspects of it. But I

> > figured if nothing else I have a friend who knows Flash 

> real well and this

> > list to act as resources should I run into trouble.

> > 

> > The main problem, however, is that I asked for what I 

> considered a typical

> > freelancing payment deal - a third down up front, another 

> third at some

> > milesone point, and the rest upon completion of the 

> project. This was

> > rejected by the client, and from the best information I 

> have it seems like

> > as if I wouldn't see a dime for my efforts until the 

> project was completed.

> > This is a company who has a service that ranks third in the 

> world (it

> > involves software that bundles e-mail, voice-mail and faxes into one

> > integrated accessible area, namely Microsoft Outlook), and 

> I've visited

> > their offices, so they're for real as far as I can tell, 

> and they have their

> > own system set in place to ensure fairness to both sides of 

> a deal such as

> > the one I'm debating entering into.

> > 

> > But I have a wife and three kids (and a cat) and I've been 

> laid off since

> > December and freelancing is a hard business and quite 

> frankly, I don't think

> > I need to settle for not getting something up front so I 

> can feed these

> > people and pay some bills.

> > 

> > What opinion does anyone have here?

> > 

> > -Brian Matthews

> > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer

> > 

> > 

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