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Subject: RE: Talking about Bandwidth-Some People Are Missing The REAL ISSUE
From: Chris Jester (CTS Technical)
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 19:33:17 +0100

If you go by this theory you will be out of business as a web designer. You
can't force people to go out and get faster modems and connections. By
creating this huge great idea, it will fail. If someone has to wait for your
"great" movie, it will not be great any longer. Why? Because they have to
wait and nothing will flow as you designed to. Unless it is supposed to be
slow and choppy. Don't get me wrong I love Flash and many others. I think
it's the best thing to come along for the internet, however; By creating
projects that end up being slow and massive it will be a turn off for the
end customer.

Look at any major site ie microsoft.com, ibm.com, netscape.com,
macromedia.com, etc... They might use Flash, but the projects are not
massive and tend to small and easy to download. These companies have done
there demographic research and realized that by creating large websites that
are "neat" to look at the end up cutting out a certain portion of there
target audience. Some people don't 'ant to wait for some animation to get
done. They want it quick and easy.

That's my $.02

Jester_boy
"Keep your eyes on the prize!"


-----Original Message-----
From: Carrie Dailey [SMTP:struxureatstc [dot] net]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 7:43 AM
To: flasheratshocker [dot] com
Subject: RE: Talking about Bandwidth-Some People Are Missing
The REAL ISSUE

A lot of people seem to be focusing on the wrong perspective in the
connection speed/bandwidth discussion going on. Let's try to shift
to
another perspective here for a minute.

Supply & Demand
We all know this theory. If a need or a demand for a certain
service,
product, whatever, is generated or discovered, industry kicks in and
increases the supply. At the same time, prices for the "whatever"
usually
drop as manufacturers and providers begin to compete for your $$.
We have witnessed this on grand scales repeatedly over the years:

--I bought a VCR in 1984 when they were "new" for $700! Today, you
can get
one 10 times as good as the one I bought for $150.
--I purchased a 166mhz desktop when they were state-of-the-art for
$2100.
This morning, I saw one advertised with 2 times the RAM (Compaq
Deskpro 2000
sans monitor) for $499!!!
--Consider the hard drive industry....Good God....6.4 gigs for
$249????
Imagine this 5 years ago!!!
--My dad purchased an RCA 19" color TV in 1975 for $800. Today you
can get
an awesome 31" high res TV with stereo sound for that price.

What I am getting at here is this...
Don't gripe that developers/designers are producing content that you
can't
access. We should be begging EVERYONE to create content in this
fashion.
Make it bigger, more beautiful, more interactive, HUMONGOUS. If a
majority
of websites are inaccessible to low speed connection households or
businesses, the technology giants will be literally SPEWING new, LOW
COST,
high speed connections for the general public and they will be
BEGGING you
to take it. DON'T HOLD IT BACK. Create the demand...the industry
will
provide the supply... AND they will do it on OUR terms.


>
> Yes that may be true, however because the majority of the people
on the
> internet today are on older connections, what I mean is 14.4,
> 28.8 and 33.6
> connection file size is still a big issue. In fact the ADSL is not
even
> available in some areas here in Washington and Cable modems are
not
> available in all areas. I can't get on to cable modem until next
year when
> they upgrade the existing cable lines. So please don't expect
everyone is
> going to have fast connection.
> Jester_boy
> "Keep your eyes on the prize!"
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thepoet [SMTP:thepoetatmci2000 [dot] com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 3:21 PM
> To: flasheratshocker [dot] com
> Subject: Talking about Bandwidth
>
> Recently many people were talking about movie sizes being
too large
> at 500k
> etc. Currently this is true for most people, BUT, the
situation is
> beggining
> to change in many places in the country. For example here in
> Colorado and
> Arizonia as well, the local RBOC-US Worst ...er... West
> is starting up their ADSL
> Here is a price comparison of their services. Please note
that the
> $40.00
> per moth price includes use of the ADSL modem IF you use US
Worst
> for your
> ISP (an additional 19.95 for unlimited access)
> from
http://www.uswest.com/com/customers/interprise/dsl/pricing.html
> in case
> you want more info.
>
> The following prices are based on a one year contract.
Pricing state
> to
> state may vary. Product Per
> month fee Initial
> set-up fee ATM OAL*
> Per Month Install
>
> MegaLine (256k) $40 $110 n/a n/a
> MegaOffice (512k) $62.40 $110 n/a n/a
> MegaBusiness (768k) $76.80 $110 n/a n/a
>
> MegaBit:
> 1 M down 1 M up $120 $110 n/a n/a
> 4 M down 1 M up $480 $110 n/a n/a
> 7 M down 1 M up $840 $110 n/a n/a
>
> MegaCentral:
> 1.544 Mbps $455 $500 ** n/a
> 3 Mbps $967 $500 $674.50 $840.27
> Each additional
> 3 Mbps + $239
> to previous fee $500 n/a n/a
>
> MegaPak $59.95 $199*** n/a n/a
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> ----
> In addition to the above charges, the MegaLine, MegaOffice,
> MegaBusiness and
> MegaBit customers will need to buy a Netspeed Modem or PCI
card from
> U S WEST for their computer. The price for this ranges from
$199 to
> $299.
>
> MegaBit Services provide users with a fast-paced connection
to
> either a
> corporate LAN or the Internet. Both the data and voice
traffic
> travel on the
> same pair of telephone wires so the user may use the phone
while
> working on
> the computer. The customer's phone service remains the same
and the
> customer
> continues to pay the current charges for residential or
business
> phone
> service. The pricing of MegaBit Services does not include
pricing of
> phone
> service.
> *Asynchronous Transfer Mode Optical Access Link � Certain
parameters
> need to
> be met. Contact your sales representative for further
information.
>
> **** so folks the issue of bandwidth may not be that much of
a deal
> if your
> target market consists of folks with speed. However, if you
are
> addressing
> the larger universal market, well then it is.
> Perhaps a dual Flash site based upon speed?
>
>
>
>
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