Re: FLASH: Scenes versus Labels

[Steve Couture]

Hi John,


                Long time no see.. :)    In big projects (with a lots of

tell targets, variables movieclips etc.) using scene is the best way to have

garbage and unexpected results... I have try it several times, and each

time, the result where very strange!!  Some garbage sound appear on some

frame without sound.. MovieClip with tell target dosent work properly, and

"got to frame 4" got to frame 234....  I defitively stop using Scene...


See ya!


Steve Couture



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Date : 8 octobre, 1998 20:33

Objet : Re: FLASH: Scenes versus Labels



>Hi Jim,

>

>> John C. discouraged the use of Scenes. I've

>> been mulling over this point for a while now (and rather than run a few

>> tests to see if it matters to file size), I'd like to ask the reasoning

>> here.

>

>There are several reasons I suggest not to uses Scenes.

>

>1) File size will be increased if items that appear at the end of one

>scene are used in the first frame of the next. This is because every

>item in a new Scene is new and has a placement cost in the first frame

>of a Scene.

>This is not normally a problem but should be considered. My Xmas 97

>movie done in Flash 2 is 64K when done in a single Scene but was over

>250K when divided into 5 Scenes. This is because of the placement costs.

>In the one Scene version over 700 Angel buttons are placed only one time

>each. Whereas  in the 5 Scene version there are 5 x 700 or 3500

>placement costs for the Angel buttons which are used thoughout the

>movie.

>If there are no carry over graphics (from one scene to the next) there

>is no penalty for using Scenes since there are no graphics that would

>have to be placed more than once. There is a small cost for placing each

>symbol and most of the time this cost will not be large but in some

>cases it can add up and the result can be huge.

>

>2) Movie Clips can not be used across Scene boundaries. If a Movie Clip

>is used in both Scene One and Scene Two the Movie Clip when accessed in

>the second scene will be restarted from its beginning and any

>information stored in it will be lost.

>Though you can use Load Movie instead of a Movie Clip, this can create

>other problems such as making sure that the second Movie is loaded

>before accessing it.

>

>> Seems to be a great way to organize even small projects--heck, the

>> docs certainly encourage use of scenes and the show me samples and demos

>> do too.

>As scenes are designed now there are potential problems when using

>scenes that in my opinion outweigh the benefits of using them other than

>as temporary staging mechanism before combining them into a single Scene

>Movie.

>

>> Does John know something that MM isn't telling the rest of us?

>I know that MM has mentioned the Movie Clip/Scene problem both here and

>in the newsgroup. Just today John Dowdell, Brad Bechtel and David

>Mendels (all from MM) posted replies to problems posted here on the

>Flasher List. Other MM staff also post here such as David Baldeschweiler

>and Jon Gay among others. I am glad that they not only listen but

>participate in solving and discussing Flash problems. Remember that this

>List is completely independent of Macromedia and this is not an official

>support area for MM.

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