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Subject: RE: FLASH: Flash Designers Wanted<demos>
From: Unger, Russell
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:00:17 +0100

Hey Al...

I would tell them that they are more than welcome to look at samples of my
works--more specifically those that closely resemble the type of project
they are requesting.

If you provide them a "demo" you are, in effect, putting yourself into a
potential to do a lot of work for nothing. I highly doubt that this client
is doing much more than getting free work from you. Personally, I would not
offer a demo to a client without billing them for it. You are spending time
on their project, for them, and it's technical, to some degree. "Throwing"
together a demo only shows the client that what we do "can't be that tough".
In my eyes, of course.

You might try and find a polite way to explain to the (potential) client
that unless you are able to sign a dotted line with a contract for billable
work, you are unable to create a demo for them. Then, politely recommend
that they try and find others that will do that for them.

Perhaps I'm a bit jaded, however...samples of work usually work good enough.

Best of luck!

Russell E. Unger

Modern Business Technology
1300 E. Woodfield Road, Suite 302
Schaumburg, IL 60173-4984
tel: 847.605.1917 x256 (vm x411)
fax: 847.605.1905
rungeratmbtinc [dot] com


-----Original Message-----
From: Al Rosetti [alroseatwebsitepartners [dot] com (mailto:alroseatwebsitepartners [dot] com)]
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 1998 1:42 PM
To: flasheratshocker [dot] com
Subject: Re: FLASH: Flash Designers Wanted<demos>


Hey, this is a little bit off the subject of Flash but since everyone is
debating ethics and contracts I have a serious question. When a potential
client asks you to make a "demo" are you getting screwed? I mean, heck the
odds of getting any particular job are relatively low and if you spend your
time making demos for free that's a waste. However, if you really want the
job you'll go the extra mile so..... I'm lost on this one. What's the
industry standard... Demo or no Demo? I feel like if I say "no way!" I've
lost the deal.... but if I say "sure, my time is free," I'm wasting my time.
I mean heck, I probably won't get it anyway because I'm competing against a
dozen companies. The reason this is on my mind is that I JUST did a home
page demo for a comic book company. I can't pinpoint where it's coming from
but I get the vibe that they are not going to use me for the project. In
other words.... I wasted a lot of time for nothing. So, what do you guys
do?

Al Rosetti
http://www.websitepartners.com



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