Re: FLASH: Flash Designers Wanted<demos>

[Jim Curry]

When I hear the word "demo"...and I am still quite new at freelancing...I say

no.  I suggest that they view the work I have done at my site which also has

links to works I have done for other companies.  Chances are good if someone

really wants you they have already seen what you can do which is why they

approached you in the first place. Anyone who still wants a demo is turned

down flat...but politely.

JC


David Gary wrote:

> 

> Al Rosetti wrote:

> 

> > Hey, this is a little bit off the subject of Flash but since everyone is

> > debating ethics and contracts I have a serious question.  When a potential

> > client asks you to make a "demo" are you getting screwed?

> 

> If your doing it for _no_ compensation you are. It seems you have found that

> popular area of not being able to handle the client. Its nothing new, everyone

> goes

> through it starting out, but you must be able to inform your client of how the

> market works. If the client asks for a demo. You should already  have some made

> to show. If the demo is created for "their" purpose(rare), then you should be

> compensated for your time.

> 

> > I mean, heck the odds of getting any particular job are relatively low.

> 

> Where do you get your info?

> 

> Are you an amatuer? Have you been contracted before for freelance?

> It seems by your post that you do not hae a clientle built up. If you need help

> check out http://www.gag.org for info from professional artists. Also grab

> yourself a copy of the Guild's handbook at the above URL. This is a _must_ in

> this industry.

> 

> > and if you spend your time making demos for free that's a waste.  However, if

> > you really want the job you'll go the extra mile so.....  I'm lost on this

> > one.  What's the

> > industry standard... Demo or no Demo?  I feel like if I say "no way!" I've

> > lost the deal.... but if I say "sure, my time is free," I'm wasting my time.

> > I mean heck, I probably won't get it anyway because I'm competing against a

> > dozen companies.

> 

> Demos or samples should be created to promote _yourself_. They give the client

> an idea of your style and experience. Again if a client seems interested and

> wants a personal demo created, then you should recieve compensation for your

> time. If they turn you down because of this, then they we're a waste of your

> time anyway and you would have probably had problems getting paid in the first

> place. This would have been your fault for not informing them of the "ethics" of

> the market. If you dont have a portfolio to show then you probably should

> practice your trade and create one before making yourself available to the

> professional market.

> 

> HTH,

> 

> -DG-

> 

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