RE: FLASH: Flash3, Toy or serious designer tool?

[Jean Dukate]

Well the closest I have been able to get to what you are asking for is

with the use of Rhino. Rhino can export the wire frames of a model by

converting them to vector lines via the *ai file export. This can easily

be braought into Flash then filled with gradients as needed. To help

with the gradient process export a rendered version of the model and

export and *ai file. That way you have something to go by when filling

with gradients. Place the bitmap underneath the *ai export and lock the

layer.


On a similiar note do you know of any other vector based app that allows

for 3D DXF file import? I have tried unsucessfully with Freehand 7.0. I

mention this because it seems like this support you mention would be

first available in the likes of Freehand before we see it in Flash. 


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> Sent:	Wednesday, October 28, 1998 5:51 PM

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> Subject:	Re: FLASH: Flash3, Toy or serious designer tool?

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> 

> Jean Dukate wrote:

> 

> > Just curious as to how possible it would be to add 3D support into

> > Flash? Utimately we are talking about some need of a rendering

> engine

> > inside of Flash. And if so render to what? Render to bitmap or

> vector?

> 

> Vector of course.

> 

> > If Flash renders to bitmap like every other 3D app how would this be

> any

> > better than just importing bitmaps from a 3D app to start with.

> 

> Vector of course.

> 

> > So what we really want is a render to vector.

> 

> Of course.

> 

> > But so far I have yet to find any 3D app that has a render to vector

> > capability. Sure there are some programs that can simulate a simple

> > extrusion by basically copying a

> > shape over and over. But I haven't seen any application at all that

> can

> > render a complex model into a shaded vector image. Has anyone else

> find

> > such a program?

> >

> 

> I think the need to shading and lighting values could be left to the

> designer and the "fill" tool.

> 

> If Flash could support basic geometry and simple wire frame and

> convert to

> "line",

> this would surpass any web design tool to date, by a uge margin. I

> personally didnt ask

> for raytracing capabilities or even lighting effects. That can be left

> up to

> the designer. Basic 3D wireframe support would do worlds of wonder

> however.

> Of course if you animated any shape beside cubes and spheres, then we

> would

> definetly need some type of "airbrush" gradient tool to define

> effective

> lighting direction.

> Forget high end 3D animation application, but simple 3D wireframe is

> possible and the rendering can be done by the artist with vector or

> solid

> gradient fill.

> 

> > Am I wrong that this technology to render a complex 3D model into

> vector

> > just doesn't exist as of yet. If it doesn't exist then what are the

> > realistic expectations of having 3D capabilities inside of Flash.

> Are

> > Flash designers going to be happy if Flash only renders 3D objects

> to

> > bitmap?

> >

> >

> 

> Forget bmp and web design. Flash is Vector and should remain vector

> for web.

> 

> However basic CAD calculation could easily implemented to calculate

> "line".

> The only option for 3D in flash3 _IS_ to import bmp. I'm more

> interested in

> Vector, but also "freedom" in vector, i.e. better tools, basic 3D or

> CAD

> support, etc.

> 

> -DG-

> 

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