Re: FLASH: Flash3, Toy or serious designer tool?

[Darryl Carpenter]

Hi Jean , Freehand 8.0.1 and flash are such good friends that you can export

from freehand as .swf. It seems a lot of the pros use freehand to draw

backgrounds and such and then just export to flash . It also allows them to

play with  the beziers prior to import.

If you like flash the update is  probably worth it .

Regards daz


Jean Dukate wrote:


> Well the closest I have been able to get to what you are asking for is

> with the use of Rhino. Rhino can export the wire frames of a model by

> converting them to vector lines via the *ai file export. This can easily

> be braought into Flash then filled with gradients as needed. To help

> with the gradient process export a rendered version of the model and

> export and *ai file. That way you have something to go by when filling

> with gradients. Place the bitmap underneath the *ai export and lock the

> layer.

>

> On a similiar note do you know of any other vector based app that allows

> for 3D DXF file import? I have tried unsucessfully with Freehand 7.0. I

> mention this because it seems like this support you mention would be

> first available in the likes of Freehand before we see it in Flash.

>

> > -----Original Message-----

>

> From: dgarystudiosnetwide [dot] net [SMTP:dgarystudiosnetwide [dot] net]

> > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 5:51 PM

>

> To: flashershocker [dot] com

> > Subject:      Re: FLASH: Flash3, Toy or serious designer tool?

> >

> >

> >

> > Jean Dukate wrote:

> >

> > > Just curious as to how possible it would be to add 3D support into

> > > Flash? Utimately we are talking about some need of a rendering

> > engine

> > > inside of Flash. And if so render to what? Render to bitmap or

> > vector?

> >

> > Vector of course.

> >

> > > If Flash renders to bitmap like every other 3D app how would this be

> > any

> > > better than just importing bitmaps from a 3D app to start with.

> >

> > Vector of course.

> >

> > > So what we really want is a render to vector.

> >

> > Of course.

> >

> > > But so far I have yet to find any 3D app that has a render to vector

> > > capability. Sure there are some programs that can simulate a simple

> > > extrusion by basically copying a

> > > shape over and over. But I haven't seen any application at all that

> > can

> > > render a complex model into a shaded vector image. Has anyone else

> > find

> > > such a program?

> > >

> >

> > I think the need to shading and lighting values could be left to the

> > designer and the "fill" tool.

> >

> > If Flash could support basic geometry and simple wire frame and

> > convert to

> > "line",

> > this would surpass any web design tool to date, by a uge margin. I

> > personally didnt ask

> > for raytracing capabilities or even lighting effects. That can be left

> > up to

> > the designer. Basic 3D wireframe support would do worlds of wonder

> > however.

> > Of course if you animated any shape beside cubes and spheres, then we

> > would

> > definetly need some type of "airbrush" gradient tool to define

> > effective

> > lighting direction.

> > Forget high end 3D animation application, but simple 3D wireframe is

> > possible and the rendering can be done by the artist with vector or

> > solid

> > gradient fill.

> >

> > > Am I wrong that this technology to render a complex 3D model into

> > vector

> > > just doesn't exist as of yet. If it doesn't exist then what are the

> > > realistic expectations of having 3D capabilities inside of Flash.

> > Are

> > > Flash designers going to be happy if Flash only renders 3D objects

> > to

> > > bitmap?

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Forget bmp and web design. Flash is Vector and should remain vector

> > for web.

> >

> > However basic CAD calculation could easily implemented to calculate

> > "line".

> > The only option for 3D in flash3 _IS_ to import bmp. I'm more

> > interested in

> > Vector, but also "freedom" in vector, i.e. better tools, basic 3D or

> > CAD

> > support, etc.

> >

> > -DG-

> >

> >

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