RE: AW: FLASH: Is internet design with Flash possible? ;-)

[Sooy, Matt]

and if you want to learn photoshop: $650, illustratator: $300, freehand:

$300, Director:  $1000, Any number of 3D engines: 300 - 1000+


I'll agree that sometimes the best method is to roll up your sleeves and

just immerse yourself, but can you afford to buy your college kid this

software? the software upgrades?  That's not even counting a 2-3000 computer

system that requires a 500 upgrade every six months.  


I believe that a legitimate course could be made out of a general heading of

"understanding multimedia interfaces" and another "vector animation" but I

believe teaching a specific software like "Flash" in school is why

graduating students are typically 2-5 years behind the industry.


I think its important that students have the opportunity to learn multimedia

in the university environment, not just in specialized art schools or on

their own.  It broadens the base of all students by affording them a new

mode of communicating,


I'll agree that it sometimes seems that there is very little substantive

value derived from universities, but I firmly believe that it does challenge

every students mode of thought, and exposes them to new ways of

communicating.  Many believe that the seemingly superfluous amounts of work

which you describe as 95% BS compliment this idea, others believe it

provides a foundation for a good work ethic, and still others see its

utility as nominal at best.


I agree that there shouldn't be a course that teaches Flash, but I do

believe that there are many useful and intelligent things that can be

derived from mediums such as Vector animation, computer illustration, and

especially elements of good design.  Furthermore, I don't believe it is a

viable idea to require that persons intrested in learning these things

invest thousands of dollars worth of software and equipment that may not

provide any return for years.


Matt Sooy


> -----Original Message-----

>

From: Al Rosetti [SMTP:alrosewebsitepartners [dot] com]

> Sent:	Wednesday, October 28, 1998 3:20 PM

>

To: flashershocker [dot] com

> Subject:	Re: AW: FLASH: Is internet design with Flash possible? ;-)

> 

> On the Flash is bad/Flash is great debate....

> Sure, it has it's good and bad points.... but why debate a professor from

> Germany?  Like most of the so called "educated elite" his job shouldn't

> even

> exist.  The University system is 95% B.S. & 5% percent real value.  This

> guy

> is part of the smoke and mirrors.  The thought of teaching a program like

> Flash in a University setting is utterly ridiculous.  If you want to learn

> multimedia here's a tip that will save you (and society) plenty of time

> and

> money...

> Buy the software for $300, pop it in, surf the net, peruse the news groups

> and in 2 months you'll be fine with it.  I can't think of a bigger waste

> of

> money than learning Flash in college.  If you add up the total investment

> made by the government, school and student it's probably costing around 2

> to

> 5 thousand bucks to "teach" someone flash.  GIMME A BREAK!!!!

> 

> Sincerely,

> 

> Al Rosetti

> http://www.websitepartners.com

> 

> p.s.

> On a related note for the University/design students who read this

> list....

> I don't know what your professor's are telling you right now but once you

> graduate none of your clients are going to ask or even CARE about your

> education background.  All they want to see is your portfolio and client

> list... in that order.  If you want to become an employee and make $10 to

> $20 bucks an hour (starting out) a degree MIGHT help you land your first

> job

> but... 5 years lost and a $100,000 investment is a pretty hefty price for

> a

> job that only pays about 25 grand a year.  Forget the degree.  If you've

> got

> nothing but a strong desire to work and the willingness to go on a dozen

> (mostly miserable) interviews you can have that job anyway.... and best of

> all.... no student loan to pay back, hehe.

> 

> 

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