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businesses (i.e. clients) who have seen the full benefits (the 30-40% you have quoted so openly in your email). So either: 1. It doesn't really work but is a nice idea and, but more of a market positioning than actual improvement, or 2. Those that use it keep the additional savings to themselves, or 3. I have missed out on all those actual 'real world' case studies of clients who have seen this sort of benefit I have, however, been in many meetings with developers who claim that their process / go faster stripes will make my life so much easier and then, in practice, it doesn't. Still, I always admire a new spin... to get the best out of it, you need to get yourself some 'chaordic agents' to employ too. On 30 Nov 2011, at 12:37, Angus Phillipson wrote: Hah! John, Did you really just dismiss the most important paradigm shift in systems development process as a go-faster stripe! I love it. Agile is indeed easy to say, and no doubt the credentials of the Ecademy SEO experts/coaches will soon include =91agile coach=92. I accept it is easy to get wrong, and when inexperienced teams get it wrong it goes very (very) wrong, as you are removing the traditional project management constraints. Which makes it risky in the hands of chancers. However, after training, experience and with the right systems, methodology and client engagement it makes a phenomenal difference to the quality, cost and inherent risk of systems development. 30-40% successful scope change *during* development is not uncommon. And that is 30-40% of =91stage 2=92 you don=92t have left after the first implementation. That is a very handsome saving in priority requirements over redundant functionality indeed. And if you also drop in methodology like pair programming from XP and test driven methodology then you have something rather lovely from a development process perspective. Much better systems, delivered faster and at lower cost. What=92s not to like? angus --485b397dd4b9d0f0ab04b32042c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset= =3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtere= d medium)"><base href=3D"x-msg://4721/"><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.apple-style-span {mso-style-name:apple-style-span;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style></head><body lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div = class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0= pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ye= s,=A0 rather embarrassingly I did. =A0=A0=A0But=A0 actually it is pretty cl= ever and =A0I love the simplicity and effectiveness of it.=A0=A0 =A0=A0</sp= an></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"= ,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It=92s said that 80% of requested fe= atures are unused.=A0=A0=A0=A0 So 30 to 40% falls well within that.=A0 And = why shouldn=92t we aspire to eliminate that feature bloat?</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"= ,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We achieved a 35% change in scope on= a bespoke build project for Esso recently.=A0=A0 That is 35% of things tha= t we did not build that stakeholders =A0thought they needed before we start= ed (and were estimated). =A0=A0=A0We replaced that 35% with new features th= at they found they did need,=A0 but which nobody had thought of at the star= t.=A0 That was done during development (iterative releases).=A0=A0 We=92ve = got the burn-downs to prove it.=A0=A0 </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"= ,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In that case the budget actually rem= ained the same,=A0=A0=A0 but the inherent value in delivery changed by some= 70% in the same delivery timeframe. =A0I am not making that up, promise!= =A0=A0 </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"= ,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you know that you will know more = about project and stakeholder requirements on day 2 than day 1, why not be = responsive and change the scope, if you can?=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"= ,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One of those things that I look back= on and think why on earth did we not do that earlier=85</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"= ,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><p class=3D= "MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"= ,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">anus</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div><div s= tyle=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0c= m"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma&= quot;,"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D= "font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <= a href=3D"mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com">uk-netmarketing-bo= unces at mm.chinwag.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces@= mm.chinwag.com">uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of= </b>John Braithwaite<br> <b>Sent:</b> 30 November 2011 17:28<br><b>To:</b> uk-netmarketing<br><b>Sub= ject:</b> Re: [uk-netmarketing] Sports - Community Website Platform</span><= /p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hah! Di= d you just use the phrase 'paradigm shift' without a grinning a lit= tle at the cleverness of it all.</p> <div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">From w= hat I have seen and experienced, I have not yet encountered any businesses = (i.e. clients) who have seen the full benefits (the 30-40% you have quoted = so openly in your email). So either:</p> </div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">1. It doesn't really work but is a ni= ce idea and, but more of a market positioning than actual improvement, or</= p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">2. Those that use it keep the additiona= l savings to themselves, or</p> </div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">3. I have missed out on all those actual = 'real world' case studies of clients who have seen this sort of ben= efit</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso= Normal"> I have, however, been in many meetings with developers who claim that their= process / go faster stripes will make my life so much easier and then, in = practice, it doesn't.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div= > <div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Still, I always admire a new spin... to get the= best out of it, you need to get yourself some 'chaordic agents' to= employ too.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div><div><div><p= class=3D"MsoNormal"> =A0</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 30 Nov 2011, at 12:37, Angus Phi= llipson wrote:</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br></p><div><div><p cla= ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&= quot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hah! =A0=A0=A0John, Did you rea= lly just dismiss the most important paradigm shift in systems development p= rocess as a go-faster stripe!=A0=A0 I love it.</span></p> </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Agile is indeed easy to s= ay,=A0 and no doubt the credentials of the Ecademy SEO experts/coaches will= soon include =91agile coach=92.</span></p> </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I accept it is easy to ge= t wrong,=A0 and when inexperienced teams get it wrong it goes very (very) w= rong,=A0 as you are removing the traditional project management constraints= .=A0=A0 Which makes it risky in the hands of chancers.</span></p> </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">However, after training, = experience and with the right systems, methodology and client engagement it= makes a phenomenal difference to the quality, =A0cost =A0and inherent risk= of systems development.=A0</span></p> </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">30-40% successful scope c= hange *during* development is not uncommon. =A0=A0And that is 30-40% of =91= stage 2=92 you don=92t have left after the first implementation.=A0 That is= a very handsome saving in priority requirements over redundant functionali= ty indeed.</span></p> </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And if you also drop in m= ethodology like pair programming from XP and test driven methodology then y= ou have something rather lovely from a development process perspective.</sp= an></p> </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Much better systems, deli= vered faster and at lower cost.</span></p> </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What=92s not to like?</sp= an></p> </div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p><div>= <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">angus</span></p> </div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p></div></div></div></body></= html> --485b397dd4b9d0f0ab04b32042c5--
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