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[uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

[uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

John Duffy john at nemisys.uk.com
Fri Nov 23 10:39:55 GMT 2012


Just occurred to me that your argument could probably be summed up as 'doing
a 6 Music' - who here joined the throng and hasn't listened since?

 

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[mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com] On Behalf Of Benn Neoco
Sent: 22 November 2012 17:17
To: uk-netmarketing
Subject: Re: [uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

 

It's all very nice saying you support the list but it seems to be much more
emotional than rational. 

This list has been pretty much dead for some time. 

 

I've had a great time on here and respect the collective input from all over
the years. Obviously kudos to Sam for making it happen but if no one really
uses the list then what difference does it make if it is here?

 

I had pretty much forgotten about UKNM until that first post (in ages) a few
weeks ago. 

 

If you all really love it so much then why not step up the discussions? Not
for the sake of it, or that renders the list pointless too. 

 

I'm just saying I remember a time when this list was buzzing and it would be
nice to see it back in swing again. Would it not be better if it was a
Facebook page? That would also increase the group size and reach over time
as member engagement would expose the group to new members. 

 

 

 

 

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On 22 Nov 2012, at 09:20, John Braithwaite <john at ergodigital.com> wrote:





Me too... although this list (sadly) seems to be less used. However all the
postings are great... seems that most have a wealth of knowledge in
different areas... and are willing to share their honest opinions.

 

Let's keep it up!

 

 

On 21 Nov 2012, at 21:59, Pete Bresser <pete at electronic-bean.co.uk> wrote:





Yep; I'm still here, still lurking (and learning) and although I'm not as
involved with the digital area as I once was, I still value the list.

 

More power to your elbow Sam - and any other parts that need it.


Regards

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On 21 November 2012 17:42, <jclarke at ic24.net> wrote:

Leave this list? Not 'till hell freezes over thanks. It's where us oldtimers
get to still share, perhaps not as much as we used to, but that's because
we've all got to cover so much more in the ever expanding digital universe. 

Funny enough another learned list in the US was going to go dark and that
started up a whole bunch of threads when those who lurked for years realised
they'd lose such a great resource. 

I see NMA.co.uk <http://nma.co.uk/>  is changing to The Digitals after being
tied up by eConsultancy, it looks like plenty more churn in the digital
industry is to come too from what I hear. 

Happy to be a Chinwagger, it's now been 12 years i'm sure, so looking
forward to being an unruly digital teenager next year. Keep it up Sam and
Co, you do a great job with what might be the oldest email group list in
town. 

So what's the next topic... Duoscreening? Image recognition ads? Mobile? The
creeping data collection of the big 3 - Apple, Facebook, Google? The lack of
talent and education? Plenty more I'm sure... 

Cheers 

Jon Clarke 

Head of Digital 

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http://www.linkedin.com/in/jondclarke 

  

  

  

On Nov 21 2012, Sam Michel wrote: 

Afternoon all...

Apologies, this shouldn't have gone through to the list. I've unsubscribed
Frank from the list. In case anyone else wants to hop off, there's
instructions at the bottom of every email. Or drop me a line if you run
into any problems.


Toodle Pip

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On 14 November 2012 08:32, frank wrote:

> please unsubscribe me! i have unsubscribed a while back and yesterday i
> started getting these emails again!!
>
> Regards
> Frank
>
>
> On 13 Nov 2012, at 12:56, Miko Coffey wrote:
>
> Hi Rod,
>
> First and foremost, HTML tables are a nightmare for accessibility. And
> what's good for accessibility is usually good for SEO as well, since
> crawlers behave in many ways like text-based browser tools.
>
> A good article covering the reasons why:
> http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2009/04/08/from-table-hell-to-div-hell/
>
> Tables are great for tabular content, it's just that they were bastardised
> and used in a way they were never meant for by designers (like me) way
back
> in the day before Google existed. Ah the Netscape years, how simple life
> was back then...
>
> Enjoy the above article - think it does a better job of explaining than a
> nostalgic old web geek does ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Miko
>
>
> On 12 November 2012 14:02, Rod Harris wrote:
>
>> Hi all. Happy Mondays. Can someone tell me if it's true that it's better
>> for SEO not to use html tables?****
>>
>> In fact. Why are tables in HTML code frowned upon? I've not seen good
>> support for this prejudice. They don't seem to be problematic in mobile
>> browsers. The usual answer is that content needs to be separated from
>> layout. But why is using a div or a span good separation of content from
>> layout and a table not? Good layout with only divs requires a lot of
nested
>> divs. So why Is a table less maintainable?. It's unlikely that a new
>> version of a web site will only need a new CSS file. In fact I think
>> less people will understand what is going on someone else's CSS rather
than
>> in their simple table layout. I'd be interested in good reasons for the
use
>> if divs + CSS instead of tables.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Cheers****
>>
>> Rodders.****
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