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Hello Everyone,

A few months back I seem to remember Sam asking the group if we wanted to
morph the group to Linked-in, but the weight of opinion was very much
against, not least due to the increasing amount of spam that everyone is now
dealing with on that medium.

I was with the "please leave it as it is" group and would fight even harder
not  to go to Facebook to interact!  But Benn is right, there is a lack of
discussion and we can all blame ourselves for that as we are locked away in
our own worlds and "forgetting" to interact.  (In actual fact,  I thought I
had been deleted from the list because I hadn't received any emails from the
group for so long.  I even went as far as to go onto the website to check to
see I was still signed up! ).

So here's a question to stir people into action:

We are just about to launch a test on Pinterest for a large Real Estate
client having learned that Pinterest has expanded 8 fold since the beginning
of the year in Latin America.  Pinterest is a fantastic source of traffic
and referral links and in North America is driving more traffic than
Linked-in, Google + and You Tube combined.  Its second only to Facebook.

Latin America is, according to Comscore, the region that engages the most on
social media, and Pinterest's audience grew from 153,000 Latin American
Visitors in January 2012 to 1.3 million now. (Latin American's are wonderful
social people :-)

So my question is, how is everyone else using Pinterest in your markets,
wherever you may be in the world and how is working for you?

I look forward to hearing from the group.

Have a wonderful day/weekend.

Saludos

Suzy

Suzy Turnbull (Dip Dig M)
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From:  Benn Neoco <benn at neoco.com>
Reply-To:  uk-netmarketing <uk-netmarketing at mm.chinwag.com>
Date:  Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:17 PM
To:  uk-netmarketing <uk-netmarketing at mm.chinwag.com>
Subject:  Re: [uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

It's all very nice saying you support the list but it seems to be much more
emotional than rational.
This list has been pretty much dead for some time.

I've had a great time on here and respect the collective input from all over
the years. Obviously kudos to Sam for making it happen but if no one really
uses the list then what difference does it make if it is here?

I had pretty much forgotten about UKNM until that first post (in ages) a few
weeks ago. 

If you all really love it so much then why not step up the discussions? Not
for the sake of it, or that renders the list pointless too.

I'm just saying I remember a time when this list was buzzing and it would be
nice to see it back in swing again. Would it not be better if it was a
Facebook page? That would also increase the group size and reach over time
as member engagement would expose the group to new members.




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On 22 Nov 2012, at 09:20, John Braithwaite <john at ergodigital.com> wrote:

> Me too... although this list (sadly) seems to be less used. However all the
> postings are great... seems that most have a wealth of knowledge in different
> areas... and are willing to share their honest opinions.
> 
> Let's keep it up!
> 
> 
> On 21 Nov 2012, at 21:59, Pete Bresser <pete at electronic-bean.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Yep; I'm still here, still lurking (and learning) and although I'm not as
>> involved with the digital area as I once was, I still value the list.
>> 
>> More power to your elbow Sam - and any other parts that need it.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete Bresser
>> LinkedIn Profile: www.linkedin.com/in/petebresser
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/petebresser>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 November 2012 17:42,  <jclarke at ic24.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Leave this list? Not 'till hell freezes over thanks. It's where us oldtimers
>>> get to still share, perhaps not as much as we used to, but that's because
>>> we've all got to cover so much more in the ever expanding digital universe.
>>> 
>>> Funny enough another learned list in the US was going to go dark and that
>>> started up a whole bunch of threads when those who lurked for years realised
>>> they'd lose such a great resource.
>>> 
>>> I see NMA.co.uk <http://nma.co.uk/>  is changing to The Digitals after being
>>> tied up by eConsultancy, it looks like plenty more churn in the digital
>>> industry is to come too from what I hear.
>>> 
>>> Happy to be a Chinwagger, it's now been 12 years i'm sure, so looking
>>> forward to being an unruly digital teenager next year. Keep it up Sam and
>>> Co, you do a great job with what might be the oldest email group list in
>>> town. 
>>> 
>>> So what's the next topic... Duoscreening? Image recognition ads? Mobile? The
>>> creeping data collection of the big 3 - Apple, Facebook, Google? The lack of
>>> talent and education? Plenty more I'm sure...
>>> 
>>> Cheers 
>>> 
>>> Jon Clarke 
>>> 
>>> Head of Digital
>>> 
>>> www.spaceandtime.eu.com <http://www.spaceandtime.eu.com/>  -
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/jondclarke
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21 2012, Sam Michel wrote:
>>> 
>>> Afternoon all...
>>> 
>>> Apologies, this shouldn't have gone through to the list. I've unsubscribed
>>> Frank from the list. In case anyone else wants to hop off, there's
>>> instructions at the bottom of every email. Or drop me a line if you run
>>> into any problems.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Toodle Pip
>>> 
>>> Sam
>>> 
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>>> 7099 4011 <tel:%2B44%20%280%2920%207099%204011>
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>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 14 November 2012 08:32, frank  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> > please unsubscribe me! i have unsubscribed a while back and yesterday i
>>>> > started getting these emails again!!
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> > Frank
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 13 Nov 2012, at 12:56, Miko Coffey  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Rod,
>>>> >
>>>> > First and foremost, HTML tables are a nightmare for accessibility. And
>>>> > what's good for accessibility is usually good for SEO as well, since
>>>> > crawlers behave in many ways like text-based browser tools.
>>>> >
>>>> > A good article covering the reasons why:
>>>> > 
>>>> http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2009/04/08/from-table-hell-to-div-hell/
>>>> >
>>>> > Tables are great for tabular content, it's just that they were
>>>> bastardised
>>>> > and used in a way they were never meant for by designers (like me) way
>>>> back
>>>> > in the day before Google existed. Ah the Netscape years, how simple life
>>>> > was back then...
>>>> >
>>>> > Enjoy the above article - think it does a better job of explaining than a
>>>> > nostalgic old web geek does ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > Miko
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 12 November 2012 14:02, Rod Harris  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>>> >> Hi all. Happy Mondays. Can someone tell me if it¹s true that it's
>>>>> better
>>>>> >> for SEO not to use html tables?****
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> In fact. Why are tables in HTML code frowned upon? I¹ve not seen good
>>>>> >> support for this prejudice. They don¹t seem to be problematic in mobile
>>>>> >> browsers. The usual answer is that content needs to be separated from
>>>>> >> layout. But why is using a div or a span good separation of content
>>>>> from
>>>>> >> layout and a table not? Good layout with only divs requires a lot of
>>>>> nested
>>>>> >> divs. So why Is a table less maintainable?. It¹s unlikely that a new
>>>>> >> version of a web site will only need a new CSS file. In fact I think
>>>>> >> less people will understand what is going on someone else¹s CSS rather
>>>>> than
>>>>> >> in their simple table layout. I¹d be interested in good reasons for the
>>>>> use
>>>>> >> if divs + CSS instead of tables.****
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ** **
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cheers****
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Rodders.****
>>>>> >>
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > ---------------------------------------
>>>> > Miko Coffey, BFA FRSA
>>>> >
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>>>> >
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>>>> >
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>>>> >
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>> agencies who place staff in the sector.
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> Arts, Kingston University as well as the majority of recruitment
> agencies who place staff in the sector.
> 
> Take a look through our listings or register to advertise your
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