RE: UKNM: International Competitions

[Rick Brownlow]

Laurence


Excuse my ignorance, but how does a website generate income from the phone

calls made to their site (aside from the ones that have shares in the

telecoms company & those sites that have premium rate access)?


Also, one could argue that no purchase necessary routes for traditional

sales promotion activity ask for you to spend money on a stamp, surely the

cost of a call to enter these games is less?


Regards


Rick Brownlow

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-----Original Message-----

From:

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ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On

 Behalf Of Laurence

Grayson

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 11:16 AM

To:

uk-netmarketingchinwag [dot] com

Subject: Re: UKNM: International Competitions



Unfortunately, rumblings about the charges associated with making an

Internet connection are really making this a difficult one to settle.


As with most areas of Web law, there are huge grey areas, but this one has

potential to get really complicated.

The argument is fairly simple - the customer is paying for the phone bill

(in most cases) and this could be considered as an entrance fee as it's

generating revenue for the site.


I'm currently working for a company that's got some major interests in this

subject - we've not got anything solid to report at the moment (can't you

tell?) but I'll try and keep you posted if this issue gets resolved.


Cheers!

Laurence

----- Original Message -----

From: Lois Grayson <

loisgdialstart [dot] net

>

To: <

uk-netmarketingchinwag [dot] com

>

Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:31 PM

Subject: Re: UKNM: International Competitions



> Jason wrote:

> > On 31 Jul 00, at 12:28, Lois Grayson wrote:

> > > At the risk of sounding v v v patronising - apologies upfront here

> because

> > I

> > > might have misconstrued you - you do know that what you described is

in

> > the

> > > UK at least deemed a lottery and therefore illegal?

> >

> > As far as I'm aware it becomes illegal if a purchase has to be made

> > in order to enter - then it becomes a raffle - that is circumvented by

> > offering the No Purchase Necessary route.

> >


> > To avoid the NPN route, an element of skill (e.g. spot the ball,

> > tiebreaker) can be added to a competition where a purchase is

> > required.

>

> Oh yes NOW I remember - thanks for not slagging me off for the inaccuracy.

I

> bow to your superior knowledge Jason

>

> Lois



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