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Subject: Re: UKNM: This'll do wonders for confidence in ecommerce - not.
From: Dan Leighton
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:34:36 GMT

This is not particularly unexpected.

Perhaps this will make all you e-comm site builders out there take note.

Rule number 1 of credit card acceptance on the internet - if you are not
a bank, or equivalently secured specialist payment processing
organisation - you should not be storing credit card numbers.
Especially anywhere near your web site.

This is a basic security flaw that has been alleged with Cybercash in
that payments are 'passed through' the merchant web site (which is often
not as secure as it should be).
This problem is removed if payment is transacted solely between the
customer and a payment processor and the merchant simply receives a
confirmation of sale (plenty of companies out there who do it this
way). In other words credit card numbers are *never* stored, therefore
they cannot be 'hacked into'.

The commonly heard response is that holding credit card numbers allows
subscription and other delayed payments to be made easily. But there
are other methods to achieve this. And is it really worth the horrific
consequences to a business if it is hacked? I think not.

Dan Leighton
European Web Marketing Manager
PSINet Europe
+44 1223 577 615

Chris Meachin wrote:
>
> I agree that consumer confidence will be seriously undermined by high
> profile cases of this nature. It may prove to be an ongoing problem until
> the way that online payments are made is fundamentally changed.
>
> In my view, events like this emphasise the poor level of security afforded
> by credit cards, rather then the Internet itself.
>
> Credit cards were never really designed to accommodate remote transactions
> of this kind and are intrinsically unsuitable.
>
> I can only hope that fraud of this nature will serve to bring the need for
> an alternative system of digital payment to the fore.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owneratchinwag [dot] com [owneratchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:owneratchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Wallace,
> Darren
> Sent: 11 January 2000 10:22
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> Subject: UKNM: This'll do wonders for confidence in ecommerce - not.
>
> >From www.Silicon.com <http://www.Silicon.com>
>
> Hacker publishes credit card numbers on the Web
>
> PUBLISHED: 0:25am on Tuesday 11th January 2000
>
> Online retailers are still reeling this morning after a hacker broke into
> music store www.CDuniverse.com and stole
>
> [Sam says:article chopped for brevity.]


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