RE: UKNM: spiders / page impressions

[Teddie (*\\*)]

Ian


"tell me that you're not implying that people should welsh

their impressions numbers by including spiders in the traffic stats"


I believe that in a lot of cases you might not have any choice in this

matter.


Yesterday I found Scooter (AltaVista's spider) being identified as a

Mozilla Browser. If I hadn't done an RDNS lookup on it because of some

strange browsing patterns and found its IP address coming from AV.com we

would never have known. Infact is it  possible that unknown Spiders could

account for up to a 1/4 of the traffic on some sites.


ABC will still have problems confirming legit site statistics, as even they

are relying on the fact that the honest Spider writers/owners are using the

robots.txt file and using distinguishable Agent names to declare

themselves. If they're not then spotting strange browsing patterns doing

RDNS and Block lookups for the parent domains or filtering all your logs

through lists of know spider IP's (which change daily) is the only way to

get even semi accurate statistics.


Teddie

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Sent: 27 November 2000 10:25

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Subject: UKNM: spiders / page impressions



Emily wrote: "If nothing else, your PI's go through the

roof for a very short period of time due to the amount of spiders indexing

you."


Emily, *please* tell me that you're not implying that people should welsh

their impressions numbers by including spiders in the traffic stats. If so,

you might want to read an ABC definition (actually, that might not help

sooooo much), or at least start thinking of a slightly more ethical

definition of a page impression.


What year is this?


i


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