RE: UKNM: Search Engines

[kpolley]

Banner ads are often just viewed as an irritant or detractor on many

website pages.  I gather their placement on the web page is also an issue,

as if they are at the top of the page, people often scroll down to read

information and their impact is lost.  Many web design companies are now

advocating their placement in the middle or lower down a page.  I think the

most 'friendly' banner ads are of the call back variety where you click on

the ad because you are interested in the product, a box pops up and you

enter your details and when you want to be contacted re. the enquiry.  Once

you have submitted the details you are directed back to the original site

and can carry on browsing.  This is good for the user - you aren't moved

from the site of primary interest - and good for the host site as the

traffic is not directed away from it.


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While I'd be the first to admit a vested interest, I think its rash to say

outright that banners are a waste of money.


When it comes to quoting figure - a cost-per-visitor, (CPC) model makes

even

more financial sense, pure response, lots of free reach and I guess as

platform which has more of a direct marketing element * end of vested

interest - any thoughts?



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From: "Sarah Thomas" <sarahmotionpixels [dot] co [dot] uk>

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> And are banners a complete waste of money?


Whether banners are a complete waste of money or not depends

on your goals and what you are trying to sell - I'm

surprised to see such a sweeping and unqualified generalisation.


If you're an e-tailer selling low ticket and low repeat purchase items

then yes banners are probably a complete waste of money if your goals

are customer acquisition and sales.


eg. let's say you sell posters for around 4 quid, and the average

order comprises two posters, giving you a total of 8 pounds per average

order.


You then buy 100,000 banner impressions at a CPM rate of say 25 pounds.

Which costs you 2500 pounds. You get a click thru rate of [optimistically]

1%. Of these 1% [1000 people], 2.5% actually make a purchase [25 orders].


It doesn't take a genius to work out that banner advertising in this

instance isn't a particularly cost-effective way of generating sales.

eg. spend 2500 to get 200 quid's worth of orders.


If you were selling PCs at 1000 pound per system then based

on the conversion rates above, then of course it would make sense.


Hope this helps


D.



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