Re: Microsoft Beta WAS: FLASH: flash 5 problem (OT)

[Wayne Pennell \( Web Master \)]

Just IE. as for others it's kind of unheard of.. unless your a A+ all down

developer.

I agree with ya on the macromedia bug submission.


Wayne Pennell

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Subject: Microsoft Beta WAS: FLASH: flash 5 problem (OT)



>

> > >

> > > But Microsoft's beta is not organized, where on Microsofts site do you

> log

> > a

> > > bug or search for known bugs?

> >

> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/bugs/

> >

> > Name your flavor its there if you look...

> >

> >

>

> But none of the software mentioned on that page is in beta, it is just for

> entering bugs in current and past releases of their software. This would

be

> a nice feature at the macromedia site instead of sending bugs to

>

wish-enterMMproductmacromedia [dot] com. It would be nice to submit and query.

I

> believe there are a few unofficial bug bases for Director out there, but

it

> would be nice to have Macromedia's blessing.

>

> I did a search on Microsofts site for Millenium to see if I could download

> the release candidate, but I didn't see anywhere where I could. The only

way

> I could get the beta was using my MSDN Universal subscription. So I'm not

so

> sure Microsofts beta program is truly open to the public, you have to at

> least drop down a large chunck of change before getting preview software.

> Are you referring to only IE as being public beta or do you know of any

> other software that is public beta?

>

> Mike Weiland

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> > When you open it up to the everyone you have

> > > the problem of engineering trying to reproduce nonexist bugs,

incomplete

> > > steps or user error. Look through a lot of the posts here of people

> asking

> > > for help. They send in incomplete descriptions that is if we're lucky,

> > some

> > > don't even give detail.

> >

> > That's why we are saying use the dang irc and message boards and email

> such

> > as this to discuss errors so other peers not engineers can help.

> >

> > Now multiply that on a global scale and assign an

> > > engineer and a QA person to each one of these and you eat up your

> > resources

> > > and you'd probably burn out a good software engineer very quickly.

> >

> > Irc chats go globally and consistantly about how to improve products...

> you

> > place a engineer on a set problem there isn't a issue... ( remove a

> splinter

> > a day eventually you solve a potential infection ). Issues such as

loosing

> > customers because a BUG which by some may be deamed a feature isn't my

> idea

> > of a solution. I say listen to your peers for they are the user base

which

> > drive your sales.  If it takes a extra year to get the features with no

> bugs

> > so be it.  Microslops prb is they do it for money by releasing too

early.

> >

> > Wayne Pennell

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