Microsoft Beta WAS: FLASH: flash 5 problem (OT)

[Mike Weiland]

> >

> > But Microsoft's beta is not organized, where on Microsofts site do you

log

> a

> > bug or search for known bugs?

>

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/bugs/

>

> Name your flavor its there if you look...

>

>


But none of the software mentioned on that page is in beta, it is just for

entering bugs in current and past releases of their software. This would be

a nice feature at the macromedia site instead of sending bugs to

wish-enterMMproductmacromedia [dot] com

. It would be nice to submit and query. I

believe there are a few unofficial bug bases for Director out there, but it

would be nice to have Macromedia's blessing.


I did a search on Microsofts site for Millenium to see if I could download

the release candidate, but I didn't see anywhere where I could. The only way

I could get the beta was using my MSDN Universal subscription. So I'm not so

sure Microsofts beta program is truly open to the public, you have to at

least drop down a large chunck of change before getting preview software.

Are you referring to only IE as being public beta or do you know of any

other software that is public beta?


Mike Weiland

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> When you open it up to the everyone you have

> > the problem of engineering trying to reproduce nonexist bugs, incomplete

> > steps or user error. Look through a lot of the posts here of people

asking

> > for help. They send in incomplete descriptions that is if we're lucky,

> some

> > don't even give detail.

>

> That's why we are saying use the dang irc and message boards and email

such

> as this to discuss errors so other peers not engineers can help.

>

> Now multiply that on a global scale and assign an

> > engineer and a QA person to each one of these and you eat up your

> resources

> > and you'd probably burn out a good software engineer very quickly.

>

> Irc chats go globally and consistantly about how to improve products...

you

> place a engineer on a set problem there isn't a issue... ( remove a

splinter

> a day eventually you solve a potential infection ). Issues such as loosing

> customers because a BUG which by some may be deamed a feature isn't my

idea

> of a solution. I say listen to your peers for they are the user base which

> drive your sales.  If it takes a extra year to get the features with no

bugs

> so be it.  Microslops prb is they do it for money by releasing too early.

>

> Wayne Pennell

>

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