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Subject: Re: FLASH: Scenes versus Labels
From: John Croteau
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:09:24 +0100

Hi Jim,

> John C. discouraged the use of Scenes. I've
> been mulling over this point for a while now (and rather than run a few
> tests to see if it matters to file size), I'd like to ask the reasoning
> here.

There are several reasons I suggest not to uses Scenes.

1) File size will be increased if items that appear at the end of one
scene are used in the first frame of the next. This is because every
item in a new Scene is new and has a placement cost in the first frame
of a Scene.
This is not normally a problem but should be considered. My Xmas 97
movie done in Flash 2 is 64K when done in a single Scene but was over
250K when divided into 5 Scenes. This is because of the placement costs.
In the one Scene version over 700 Angel buttons are placed only one time
each. Whereas in the 5 Scene version there are 5 x 700 or 3500
placement costs for the Angel buttons which are used thoughout the
movie.
If there are no carry over graphics (from one scene to the next) there
is no penalty for using Scenes since there are no graphics that would
have to be placed more than once. There is a small cost for placing each
symbol and most of the time this cost will not be large but in some
cases it can add up and the result can be huge.

2) Movie Clips can not be used across Scene boundaries. If a Movie Clip
is used in both Scene One and Scene Two the Movie Clip when accessed in
the second scene will be restarted from its beginning and any
information stored in it will be lost.
Though you can use Load Movie instead of a Movie Clip, this can create
other problems such as making sure that the second Movie is loaded
before accessing it.

> Seems to be a great way to organize even small projects--heck, the
> docs certainly encourage use of scenes and the show me samples and demos
> do too.
As scenes are designed now there are potential problems when using
scenes that in my opinion outweigh the benefits of using them other than
as temporary staging mechanism before combining them into a single Scene
Movie.

> Does John know something that MM isn't telling the rest of us?
I know that MM has mentioned the Movie Clip/Scene problem both here and
in the newsgroup. Just today John Dowdell, Brad Bechtel and David
Mendels (all from MM) posted replies to problems posted here on the
Flasher List. Other MM staff also post here such as David Baldeschweiler
and Jon Gay among others. I am glad that they not only listen but
participate in solving and discussing Flash problems. Remember that this
List is completely independent of Macromedia and this is not an official
support area for MM.
Please also note that our kind host for this List is the Webmedia Group
and Sam Michel.

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