uk-netmarketing Archive (2011-2015)

I can see the problem from both sides and I think there are two problems here:

1. Clients want to be told and are sold on what they want to hear - so agencies who tell them a build will be six months don't get the work, and the one who says 'two months' gets the job even though they end up taking eight

2. The techies who 'sell' don't often actually do the work. So they look at a project and thing 'it'd take me 20 days' and then hand it to a junior, they lose sight of it, and only get called in when the client finally throws the photocopier out of the window and then they fire-fight

Neither of these are anything specifically to do with Gantt charts... though ;-)

The irony is that there are a lot of strong comparisons between the building trade and the website building trade - from even the terminology!


On 29 Nov 2011, at 12:32, junk at humble2.com wrote:

> I absolutely understand the allergic reaction to ms project and gant charts but it seems to me that its a langauge clients already understand and that they look for this level of clarity in order to get sign-off on budgets and timelines.
> 
> Can anyone point me towards some resources that would bridge the gap between client-friendly waterfall plans and something a bit more progressive & realistic?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> rgds
> Nick
> 
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> Nick Edell @ work
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> 
> On 28 Nov 2011, at 09:20, John Braithwaite <john at ergodigital.com> wrote:
> 
>> Skimmed over most of it, but loved the final comment:
>>>  
>>> PS If anyone shows you  a Microsoft Project Gantt chart, run a mile.
>> 
>> Very true. The only two developers who ever showed me a Gantt chart at the beginning of the project never referred back to it (even if I brought it up) and ended up delivering late and over budget having missed all their milestones (from said chart).
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