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[uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

[uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

Chris Kempt chris at kempt.co.uk
Wed Dec 5 21:15:45 GMT 2012


They're called "tines" John, not prongs... Jeez... did pretty woman teach you nothing? :o)

One thing I have worked out is that the easiest way to work out whether you're an agile organisation is to ask your client whether they like to work in an agile manner - if they say "yes" then guess what...

I jest of course.

More seriously, I think there are some really good ideas in Agile/Scrum but unfortunately they've been dressed up someone who thought they were Gary Gygax. If you can wade past all that and distil it to the useful ideas then there's some really good stuff in there.

Cheers

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From: uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com [mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com] On Behalf Of John Braithwaite
Sent: 05 December 2012 17:38
To: uk-netmarketing
Subject: Re: [uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!

What it means is... you want a fork? OK, put away the silver service... here's a fork... OK, so it's not got all the prongs yet, but with two you can eat, right? I mean, any more prongs is a waste really. You don't need four prongs on a fork...

And, if you can eat, you win... sort of.

Seriously though, the hilarious thing makes all of us take it all so seriously is that it has not really (much) affected the costs or project delivery timing... in our experience... but it has made some dev. businesses have a USP.


On 5 Dec 2012, at 15:57, Sam Michel <sam at chinwag.com<mailto:sam at chinwag.com>> wrote:


Oh yeah, <coughs>, agile, that's me. Not literally, you understand, the years haven't been that kind.

Here's a question though: does agile mean disorganised, yet able to respond like some kind of ninja?


Toodle Pip

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On 5 December 2012 14:38, Angus Phillipson <angus at thebyte9.com<mailto:angus at thebyte9.com>> wrote:
>> In my old age,  I'm trying (and most failing)  to get things up a bit more quickly and not worrying quite so much about the way they look.....

Sam,  that's not old age, that's agile development methodology - very cutting edge  ;)

angus

From: uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com<mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com> [mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com<mailto:uk-netmarketing-bounces at mm.chinwag.com>] On Behalf Of Sam Michel
Sent: 05 December 2012 12:35

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Subject: Re: [uk-netmarketing] Leaving UKNM? You must be joking!


Hiya all...

Thanks for all the replies on this thread and the feedback, it's been really useful.

As Suzy mentioned, I did ask a few months back about moving the list to Linkedin, or, <clench> Facebook. The majority of replies were happy with good old-fashioned email even if the quantity of posts is a bit sporadic.

Over the years I've looked at lots of fancy platforms, but there's always been some reason for not moving. Initially I thought Linkedin might work, but apart from a couple of exceptions, virtually all of the 50 groups I've joined are full of spam.

As part of a bunch of tech work at Chinwag, we're moving to new hosting - watch out for some new web stuff in the New Year - I've also sorted out the archives for the list since moving to Mailman:

https://mm.chinwag.com/pipermail/uk-netmarketing/

It's a bit vanilla at the moment, but at least it's a start. The old, old archives are up on the website and eventually I'll find enough time or a script kiddie to pour about 10 years' worth of posts into the new archive and tart it up somewhat.

In my old age, I'm trying (and most failing) to get things up a bit more quickly and not worrying quite so much about they way they look, especially when most of us are using email.

Any suggestions on how to improve the list, usage, etc. are very welcome - point taken about speeding up the moderation of posts.


Toodle Pip

Sam

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On 3 December 2012 13:13, <jclarke at ic24.net<mailto:jclarke at ic24.net>> wrote:

I use Oldtimers fleetingly from the States and iAdvertising that want's to now go dark. LinkedIn groups are out there a plenty but don't want quantity, just quality, same as the multitude of Facebook groups. Digital Doughnut has been new on the scene and I do like the iMedia team for their exhibitions and seminars.

They all seem to be transient whereas this has remained the same and a constant which in the ever evolving world of digital is actually a comfort. I'm happy if it works in fits and bursts, that's the level I want not an endless stream of 3 word replies and one upmanship.


Cheers


Jon

Head of Digital

Space & Time Media

http://www.linkedin.com/in/jondclarke


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