RE: UKNM: Archbishop of Canterbury talking out of his arse dot com

[Quentin Langley]

Chris, sorry to have to respond as I agree we are

getting off the point, but you really can't get away

with writing such ill-thought out ignorant bollocks

about me and expect me to ignore it.


I shall introduce the subject to you slowly, as you

clearly have no idea what you are talking about, but

YES, the church does threaten people with never ending

torture.  The concept is called Hell.  Not all

christians believe in it, but a great many believe,

and most christian churches teach, that if you are not

part of the church that is where you will be burned

forever.  I call that a threat, and so does anyone

with a dictionary.


And, yes, business IS a voluntary exchange.  Not

because you don't have to pay for goods you buy, but

because you don't have to buy.  Did you follow it this

time?  Not hard, is it?


--- Chris Meachin <

cmeachinagency [dot] com

> wrote:

> >I noticed the good old archbishop didn't have the

> same

> >vehement attitude to the traditional multinational

> >companies happily poisioning the planet, selling

> arms,

> >hampering free trade in underdeveloped nations and

> >generally fucking up the world in pursuit of the

> >buck.... now that's what i call greed.

> 

> Hmmm. That's not really news is it? No. That's been

> happening for a while

> now and that ground has been covered by the church

> and others a million

> times over. I think his point may have been that the

> dotcoms *can* be just

> as bad as traditional businesses. Just because the

> industry portrays itself

> as a caring, trainer wearing bunch of hippies

> doesn't mean that it can't

> consist of ruthless and selfish people. Which is a

> valid point.

> 

> >One group of people earns its living by offering

> >others goods and services in voluntary exchange for

> >money.

> 

> Voluntary exchange for money? What? So your

> customers have the option not to

> pay, should they wish? I see your point: That's far

> more charitable than the

> church.

> 

> >Another group earns its living by demanding

> >that productive people make "donations" to them and

> >promises an eternity of torture for those that

> don't.

> 

> Show me where and when 'they' said that. Besides

> which, this church-bashing

> is slightly off the point, surely.

> 

> >Then the second group claims moral superiority not

> >only to organised crime and to terrorists - whose

> >punishments at least stop when you die - but to the

> >productive people in the first group.  I suppose it

> is

> >the Goebbels philosophy of the big lie.

> 

> I 'm not a big fan of the church either, but I think

> it's ugly to see

> anybody ranting negatively on a subject they clearly

> aren't familiar with.

> Can we stick to the point please (I'm not actually

> sure what that was

> .....but anyway)?

> 

> Are we getting a bit precious and isolationist in

> protecting our new media

> baby, again? It's business, plain and simple, man.

> The church are never

> gonna like it. If that bothers you, don't go to

> church. Your beautiful

> dotcom enterprise aint gonna suffer because of what

> the bishop says. Get

> over it.



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