RE: UKNM: ADMIN: Times are a changin'

[Glen Collins]

Personally, I don't think it's the repeated subject threads which are a huge

problem - let's face it, things are genuinely changing so quickly that a

repeated thread usually brings up some new / updated and valid information.


I think each and everyone one of us on this list (the ones who still read

all these mails that fly around) need to stop before posting something and

ask if it's really valid to be sent to hundreds of people.


I guess what I'm saying is, can we stop the 3 or 4 one line responses to

every email which are sent ?  You know the type - the amusing and yet

pointless / time consuming to read mails.


This is something which we should all individually be able to police without

the need for a full time moderator (which is an unrealistic drain on

anyone's time).


I think this is definitely the first step to reduce 30-40% of needless

traffic on the list which will ultimately result in everyone turning off.


Glen.

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> -----Original Message-----

>

From: ownerchinwag [dot] com [ownerchinwag [dot] com]On">mailto:ownerchinwag [dot] com]On Behalf Of Sam

> Michel

> Sent: 09 November 1998 19:19

>

To: uk-netmarketingchinwag [dot] com

> Subject: RE: UKNM: ADMIN: Times are a changin'

>

>

> At 09:45 09/11/98 +0000, Steve Johnston/IMRG wrote:

> >I expressed my concerns in terms of the lists growing popularity and how

> >the references to media publicity at the time would accelerate this. Not

> >because I am elitist, but because as the list grows, the

> productivity will

> >fall. This much is evident from your lesson from history. Glenn

> Fleishman's

> >own words: "Frankly, I believe, even with the continued and active

> >participation of a good fraction of its membership, that the level of

> >discussion on the list has become less and less interesting over

> time, and

> >we're repeating ourselves ad nauseum for the most part." Now why

> does this

> >sound familiar?

>


> I participated on Glenn's list at the time and it's a fair point. On the

> other hand you could look at the Online-Ads list run by Richard Hoy

> <http://www.o-a.com/>. Although the traffic is pretty chunky, I think he

> does a pretty decent job of keeping the list on topic.

>

> To a certain extent, it's impossible to stop cyclical questions

> popping up.

> I guess it's a bit like chaos theory, each time the question alters a

> little bit, as does the answer. The alternative to this is a much stricter

> moderation policy and an archive of the messages for folks to look at

> before posing obvious questions.

>

> Of course, there's a geographic advantage in having a UK-dedicated

> marketing list, too. Glenn's original list was vast, not surprising given

> the number of people in the US involved in this kind of business. Whatever

> happens, it's likely to be a while before sheer numbers overwhelm us.

>

> >In closing, maybe it impossible for a list like this to survive its

> >success.

>

> Maybe, although I'd like to think not. I suspect the dynamics of a mailing

> list are a great deal more complex than the simple equation of more

> subscribers = repeating subjects = boring list. We shall see.

>

>

> Toodle Pip

>

> Sam

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